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Hello, My name is Patricia Adams nee Griffin, my father was Vincent James Griffin.
He died in 1952 from stomach cancer. I have no memories of him and only one photo, he was Head Sommelier.at the Grand Hotel in Manchester. From his friends I learned ne was well liked and a gentleman and he spoke with a cultured Irish accent.He and my Mother were not married as he already had a wife who refused to give him a divorce, I believe there were no children from this marriage. I did not find all this out until my Mother had died , she would not talk about my father which upset me deeply, I think I now know why. We live at that time at 126 Radnor St Hulme Manchester. Phyliss married a Patrick McGinty and had three sons she lived in Boltom Lancashire which was near where I lived but my mother had nothing to do with her, I always wanted to meet her as my Aunt told me she had wanted to adopt me after my fathers death. My grandfather was a professional soldier he fought in a few wars and was posted in Ireland after the 1st WW. His family were there hence the accent.. I married Eugene in 1969 and have 4 children. I knew your grandfather had emigrated to Australia, this is all I can think of for the moment if I think of anything else I will post you. Kind regards Patricia

I will let David know that he has received replies.

Prickles. ;o))

Philomena Williams in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name:Philomena Williams (Housewife)
Birth Date:10 Jan 1907
Age:49
Port of Departure:Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date:5 May 1956
Port of Arrival:Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage:Montreal
Ship Name:Ivernia
Shipping line:
Cunard Steamship Company Ltd

Travelling with...

William Williams born 14/04/20 Plasterer...9 Old Whint Road, Haydock,Lancashire

The middle son is on the electoral roll.....

http://www.freeelectoralroll.co.uk/


Patrick Allan McGinty in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Patrick Allan McGinty
Probate Date:21 Mar 1946
Registry:Lancaster, England
Death Date:17 Sep 1945
Death Place:Blackpool

Of 21 Winton Avenue, Blackpool. Died 17th Sep 1945 at the Royal Infirmary, Preston, Lancashire.

To Philomena McGinty....widow.

Effects: £783 13s 10d


Patrick Allan McGinty in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Patrick Allan McGinty
Registration Year:1904
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Burnley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8e
Page:277


Deaths Sep 1945 (>99%)
McGinty Patrick A 41 Preston 8e 442


Patrick Allan McGinty in the 1911 England CensusName:
Patrick Allan McGinty
Age in 1911:6
Estimated birth year:abt 1905
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Barrowford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Barrowford
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:17 David St Barrowford
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:At School
Registration district:Burnley

Household Members:

Mary McGinty 45
Margaret McGinty 21
Thomas McGinty 18
Joseph McGinty 14
James McGinty 10
Patrick Allan McGinty 6

Philomena married in 1928:

Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)

Griffin Philomena McGinty Burnley 8e 447
McGinty Patrick A Griffin Burnley 8e 447

They had 3 boys who's details you can find on FreeBMD (won't post as they could still be alive) - born 1929, 1931 and 1941.

She later remarried to a Mr. Williams:

Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%)

McGinty Philomena Williams Blackpool 10b 942
Williams William McGinty Blackpool 10b 942


This is her death:

Name: Philomena Williams
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1907
Date of Registration: Feb 1989
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 899

The date of birth matches exactly to the one given for her in James's army record.

Dea x

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590814.0

(above seems to relate)

Chris :)


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898

GRIFFIN James MCNALLY Ann Jane Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/106/61


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1903

GRIFFIN Vincent James Broughton Preston (Mother Maiden Name) MCHALLY BRO/38/79


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902

GRIFFIN Kathleen Broughton Preston MCNALLY BRO/37/95

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php



Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
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GRIFFIN Kathleen Preston 8e 594


Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Griffin Kathleen 0 Preston 8e 430

Hi David

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James Griffin in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name:James Griffin
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1870
Birth Place:
Bury, Lancashire, England
Marriage Date:26 Nov 1898
Marriage Place:Burley
Age:18
Document Year:1888
Regimental Number:3465
Regiment Name:East Lancashire Regiment
Form Title:Short Service Attestation
Number of Images:24

Family Members:

Relation to Soldier


James Griffin Self (Head)
Ann Jane McGally Spouse
Vincent James Griffin Child
Thomas Griffin Child
Philomina Griffin Child

Do you know if Vincent and Philomina married?



Vincent James Griffin in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Vincent Griffin
Registration Year:1903
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Preston
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8e
Page:578


Possible marriage...

??

Vincent J Griffin in the England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name:Vincent J Griffin
Spouse Name: Kathleen Greenway
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Registration district:Liverpool
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume Number:8b
Page Number:1294

(There does not appear to be any appropriate Griffin/Greenway births registered in England or Wales)

??

Vincent J Griffin in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Vincent J Griffin
Birth Date:abt 1904
Date of Registration:Sep 1952
Age at Death:48
Registration district:Manchester
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:10e
Page:15

Looking for descendants of James Griffin b. 1871 Bury, Lancashire, married 1899 to Ann Jane McNally b. 1875 Sleetburn, County Durham. Their children were Vincent b. 1904 Preston, Lancashire, Thomas b. 1905, Dublin, Ireland and Philomena b. 1907 Curragh Camp, Kildare, Ireland. James served with the 4th East Lancashire Regiment from 1888 to 1914 then as a reservist during WW1. My grandfather was Thomas. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards David Griffin