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Hi there
I am trying to find out more about a Rosanna Davis, She married Arthur H Holpin on the 3/7 1926 in Thornbury, Gloustershire, She was 19 years old so she was born in 1906/1906 - where I am not sure, she also couldn't write as she just made her mark

She moved to Wales with Arthur and I have their children. I have a record of a Rosanna Holpin dying in Bedwelty Wales ( where they lived) in 1944. The marriage cert. says her father was a George Davis ( deceased ) who was a Collier ( I assume a pit worker) I can not find any other details - birth or census record for my Rosanna - any help?She did not have a occupation on Marriage cert so not in service at the time

The is another Rosanna Davis in Thornbury but she married someone else and and I even have looked at other spelling ( of Rose and Davis/Davies) and Rose Hannah ( as she could not write the vicar may have spelt her name wrong and she would not know,

So I am trying to find a record of a George Davis with a daughter called Rosanna born around 1906/07

Could she be Rose Hannah ?

1911

George Joseph Davis 47
Sydia Jane Davis 36
Eliza Jane Davis 15
George Samuel Davis 14
Albert Edward Davis 10
Percy Davis 7
Rose Hannah Davis 5
Walter Cyril Davis 3
Frederick Marcy Davis 1

All born in Oxford.
father George is a Road mender for Oxford Corporation at that time.

she has a middle name and born 1909 ???????
Name: Rose H Holpin
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Sep 1944
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Bedwellty
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 91

a maybe 1911

Name: Rosanna Davies
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
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County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 13 Nant-y-dall Avenue Rhydfelan
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 139
Piece: 32214
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert George Davies 44 ---- a coal miner
Alwyn Davies 7/12
Susanah Davies 42
Elizebeth Davies 16
Robert G Davies 14
Violet Maude Davies 12
William Henry Davies 7
David Joha Davies 5
Florence May Davies 4
Rosanna Davies 2

Maddie

I also have a Rose Hildegarde Holpin who was born in 1910 in my tree ( Arthur's sister who I thought was the Rose H who died in 1944. However if Arthurs wife was a Rose Hannah and not a Rosanna - I may have got them confused.
:-)

Arthur Henry Holpin had a sister called Rose H. Holpin but not born 1910.


1911

Arthur Henry Holpin

Age in 1911:6
Estimated birth year:abt 1905
Relation to Head:Son

Birth Place:
Buckover Nr Falfield, Gloucestershire

Civil Parish:
Thornbury


William Holpin 41
Alice Holpin
William Edward Holpin 10
George Edward Holpin 8
Arthur Henry Holpin 6
Rose Hildegard Holpin 4
Jack Holpin 2
Percy Holpin 1
Dorothy Horan 7

Hi Maddie -

the reason why I did not go for Rose Hannah is that here farther George Joesph died in 1936.

On my Rose/Rosanna's marriage to Arthur in 1926 it says here farther was deceased so my George Davis died before 1926.

Think this one will be a bit of a struggle

Mike

That's my Arthur :) I have no problem with his side of the tree, it's his pesky wife Rosanna that is giving me grief :(

Arthur moved from Thornbury to Wales and worked in the pits, when Roseanna/Rose died he married her carer Evelyn,

I am doing the tree for Arthur's Grandaugher.

Thanks for looking everyone,

Not seeing a suitable death for Robert George Davis / Davies before 1926

Hi Gaynor

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate and what was the full address given?

Not very clear i'm afraid they were both residence in Thornbury at the time. One witness was Hilde Cole and the other looks like it is Florence Whixxxxxxxx

Not very clear i'm afraid they were both residence in Thornbury at the time. One witness was Hilde Cole and the other looks like it is Florence Whixxxxxxxx

So there is a 'Cole' connection



Name:Arthur Holpin

Spouse Surname: Evelyn Cole

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1945

Registration district:Bedwellty

Inferred County:Monmouthshire

Volume Number:11a

Page Number:233
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I think this could be the spouse (above)

1911
Name:Evelene Florence Cole

Age in 1911:8/12

Estimated birth year:abt 1910

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Davies Lower, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish:Bedwellty

County/Island:Monmouthshire

Street address:12 Brookland View Davies Town New Tredegar

Registration district:Bedwellty

Registration District Number:585

Sub-registration district:Tredegar

ED, institution, or vessel:32

Household schedule number:526
Piece:31879

Household Members:


Thomas John Cole 38
Florence Elizabeth Cole 38
Annie Victorie Cole 6
Evan William Cole 3
Evelene Florence Cole 8/12
Evan Lewis Griffiths 26

Yes I did look at this but can not find the link, the Holpin's were in Thormbury and the Cole's in Wales at the time Arthur wed Roseanna. I can only think there is something ' odd' here. As Roesanna could not spell her name she could be a Davies, called Rose, Rosina or anything else which is similar ( she was diffinately known as Rose as I have that from the famliy - but they know any more about her). or prehaps married without consent?

would you consider this ??

Rose Anna Davis born Warwick Sep Q 1908 6d 675

1911 Kenilworth Warwickshire

Sarah Needle 67y wid. born Kenilworth
Rosannah Davis 38y -- mar 20y 5 ch 5 alive born Kenilworth
Rosannah Davis 2y born Kenilworth

Sarah Needle signed with an X
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marriage of Rose Anne Needle

June 19th 1892 Kenilworth
James Hugh Davis 27y Lab. father George Davis [dec] Lab.
Rose Anne Needle 21y ------ father John Needle Lab.

James Hugh Davis signed -- X Rose Anne Needle
wit. Samuel Stephen Davis and Edith Needle


Mavis :-) :-)

I was wondering about this family?



Name:Rosie Davies

Age in 1911:2

Estimated birth year:abt 1909

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Birth Place:New Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish:Bedwellty

County/Island:Monmouthshire

Country:Wales

Street address:136 Jubilee Rd New Tredegar Monmouthshire

Registration district:Bedwellty

Registration District Number:585

Sub-registration district:Tredegar

ED, institution, or vessel:32
Household schedule number:79
Piece:31879

Household Members:


George Davies 30 Miner Coal Miner
Harriet Davies 29
Samuel Davies 6
Doris Davies 4
Rosie Davies 2
Alice Davies 9/12
Alfred Hughes 33

Gins - this could be a possibility ! Rosie could have been staying with friends/family or in service in Gloucestershire - where she met Arthur. Because after they married they moved to Bedwellty where Arthur worked down they mines. This has certainly been one of the hardest bits of a tree I have worked on.

Thanks for you help

It might be worth buying a birth cert for one of the children of Ros* & Arthur to check what she calls herself

that family looks a good bet Gins

better than the one I found I think

Mavis :-) :-)

Good tip Gins - I will also get the death cert for the Rose Holpin I have found.

Thanks again folks!

Gaynor