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Can anyone help, i have been looking for this family member for a a long time. All we have that he was born in Merionethshire. I think John Owen was born in either 1895 or 96. But unsure of his father. John Owen moved to Dorset as a young man and married Gladys Phillips in Poole. He was 55 when he died in Basingstoke. Would be grateful if this is anyone in your tree

The marriage

Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921



Name:John Owen occ Fitter
Birth Year:abt 1894
Age:24
Marriage or Bann Date:23 Dec 1918
Parish:Longfleet, Dorset, England
Father:John Robert Owen occ Farmer
Spouse:Gladys Dora Phillips
Spouse Father:Henry James Phillips occ Carman


Andy

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1311090

(was that him above?)

Chris :)

Do you know if John had a middle name that he did not use????


This is the only John Owen with father Robert shwoing on either the 1901 or 1911 censuses

1901 Census

Name: John Thomas Owen
Age in 1901: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father: Robert Owen
Mother: Jane Owen
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanfachreth, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanfachreth
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Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfachreth St Machreth
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
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Registration district: Dolgelly
Sub-registration district: Barmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 5255
Folio: 126
Page Number: 2

Robert Owen 39
Jane Owen 38
Gwen Owen 10
Margaret Owen 7
John Thomas Owen 5
Robert William Owen 2





Do you have his marriage certificate??

If so, who were the witnesses??

Father Robert is a Farmer ........... information that is on the marriage as provided on that earlier thread.

Possible 1901??

Detail from marriage fits, but John jnr born in Denbighshire


Name:John W Owen
Age in 1901:8
Estimated birth year:abt 1893
Relation:Son
Father:John R Owen
Mother:Mat Anne Owen
Gender:Male
Where born:Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish:Corwen
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Ecclesiastical parish:Corwen St Julian and St David
County/Island:Merionethshire
Country:Wales
Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:View image
Education:View image
Employment status:
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Occupation:
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Registration district:Corwen
Sub-registration district:Corwen
ED, institution, or vessel:22
Neighbors:
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Household schedule number:35
Piece:5247
Folio:82
Page Number:8
Household Members:
Name
Age


John R Owen 40 Farmer
Mat Anne Owen 40
John W Owen 8
Goronwy Owen 6
Owen R Owen 36
Elizabeth Jones 33
Edward Hughes 50


Andy

HI all thank you. the marriage certificate witnesses were both Phillips Henry J Phillips and Lilian May Phillips. On the marriage certificate his name is John Owen, is it usual for people to miss out names on the certificate?

Yes that is the correct marriage. As there is a possibility of getting John Owen's wrong, i want to be sure that the John Robert i locate is correct.

John Robert Owen
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name John Robert Owen
County Caernarvonshire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Sub-District 1 Beaumaris
Parish Llandysilio
Ecclesiastical Parish Bangor
Registration District Bangor
Age 1
Gender Male
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Birthplace Menai Bridge, Anglesey
Schedule Type Household

John Robert Owens
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name John Robert Owens
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1860
Registration District Corwen
County Merionethshire
Event Place Corwen, Merionethshire, Wales
Volume 11B
Page 368
Line Number 133

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John Robert Owen
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name John Robert Owen
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1890
Registration District Corwen
County Merionethshire
Event Place Corwen, Merionethshire, Wales
Volume 11B
Page 610
Line Number 84

John Robert Owen probably married one of the following people
Name Margaret Ann Edwards
Name George Gale
Name Mary Ellen Pugh

Sandra


our ancestors play all kinds of tricks on us, on official documents as well as on censuses, electoral rolls, etc ...............

they adopt a middle name .......... OH's Welsh grandfather was born in the 1870s, he had no middle name, UNTIL the 1901 census when he suddenly has acquired one, and he used it ever after, even on his marriage certificate in 1909

they lose a middle name ................. or lose their first name so their middle name becomes the first one

they switch the order around, so you have to look for Robert John as well as John Robert

they decide they don't like their name and change it, eg, Emily to Emma, or always use a diminutive or pet name, eg John to Jack

they decide to use a pet name ............. my gt grandmother switches between Hannah and Annie. She was Hannah on her marriage certificate and on some of her children's birth certificates and censuses, but Annie on other birth certificates and censuses. That didn't help in finding her when she left my gt grandfather .......... it took help from on here to discover that she and her youngest daughter had not died :-D



I think they knew how much it would annoy us :-D

Thank you i will continue using all the very helpful information that i have been given