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Thank you very much mgnv.."lovely" .. :-D :-D

There seems to be only one piece # for the London Rd subdistrict of Manchester RD, viz:

Reference: HO 107/2228
Description:
Registration District: 473. MANCHESTER (Street Indexed) Partly decayed Registration Sub-District: 3 London Road Parish: Manchester (part) Hamlet: Manchester(3)
Note: Divided between HO 107/2155, 2218-2232 & 2234-2235; Transcriptions of unfilmed Decayed Census Returns are available on the Surname Index with Census Indexes on microfiche at The National Archives

"Decayed" is the code word the NA use for the water-damaged bits of the 1851 census.

I couldn't find them in 1851.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CROOK William PINNINGTON Hannah Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Archives+, Manchester Central Library CATH/28/241

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1844 CROOK William Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON ANC/22/82
1845 CROOK James Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON ANC/27/81
1848 CROOK Sarah H London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON LRD/25/91
1849 CROOK Jesse London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/29/9
1851 CROOK Frances London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PININGTON LRD/33/97
1852 CROOK Cornelius London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON LRD/37/97
1854 CROOK Frederick London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/42/46
1857 CROOK John Henry London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PINNINGTON LRD/47/72
1858 CROOK Richard Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library PENNINGTON ANC/86/83

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
CROOK Frances 6 Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library ANC/70/178
CROOK John Henry 1 Ancoats Archives+, Manchester Central Library ANC/70/216

awww thank you Sylvia, You`re a star...spose ile just plod on slowly.. :-) :-D

I've tried searching fro one or other of the children using just their forename, birth year +/- 2 and birth place, with parents' forenames and even one or 2 siblings .................... thinking that either Crook had been misspelled or mistranscribed, or they had been given the wrong surname as sometimes happened


nada


it must be something to do with the missing pages.

cane ..............

I think pinnington / pinington / pennington is just the same old problem ......... folks just couldn't spell back then :-)

That Francis Crook was always popping up too every time I typed in William and Hannah crook..how very odd

ive also just discovered a Sarah H crook with mmn pennington.on that sight Chris..wonder why it was changed to pinnington on the censuses...I only ever found Sarah H as just Sarah on the censuses

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851

CROOK Frances London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library (Mother Maiden Name) PININGTON LRD/33/97

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
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Crook Frances Manchester 20 734

(above might be even better, if relating!)

Chris :)

Thanks Chris...that's brilliant :-)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852

CROOK Cornelius London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library (Mother Maiden Name) PENNINGTON LRD/37/97

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Births Dec 1852 (>99%)
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CROOK Cornelius Manchester 8d 211

(address from above might be useful)


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849

CROOK Jesse London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library (Mother Maiden Name) PINNINGTON LRD/29/9

Chris :)

You are Dead right kath, but its not the marriage I was after as I have those and subsequent censuses,,,i just was after 1851 .. :-(

:-( :-(

If he didn't marry Hannah Kay until 1863 then isn't the Hannah on the 1861 census Hannah Pinnington? Her death must be somewhere between census day in 1861 and the marriage in 1863, or am I missing something?

Kath. x

http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk/intro.htm

(also that about the 'Water Damaged'. You can still be lucky due to project, but then again!)

Chris :)

He married Hannah pinnington in 1842 in Manchester, Then married Hannah Kay 1863....The first Hannah died somewhere inbetween

I admit that I wondered if Hannah was a second wife.

But I found that Cornelius and Richard's mmn maiden name on lancs opc was Pennington

is this William and Hannah's marriage?

Marriages Dec 1842 (>99%)

CROOK William Manchester 20 494
PINNINGTON Hannah Manchester 20 494



and the same record from lancs bmd ........

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1842

CROOK William PINNINGTON Hannah Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Archives+, Manchester Central Library CATH/28/241

Yeah, just noticed surname was Cook not Crook.

Sorry Margee, not them :-(

Possible with grandparents. Ages are very difficult to read, I think grandfather is 60 something.


Cornelius Cook

in the 1851 England Census
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Name: Cornelius Cook
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hooley Hill, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: Englan
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 2234
Folio: 229
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Cook 48
Alice Cook 50
Mary Cook 23
Sarah Cook 14
George Cook 10
Cornelius Cook 9 Mo