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Hart Mystery

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 13:22

Hi, can anyone help please? I have a Jean K Hart who was born in 1933 in Lambeth to Frederick and Charlotte Elizabeth or Elizabeth Charlotte Hart nee Purdy. Have been searching for her marriage and have found this below. I'm completely thrown as I don't know that Jean was also call Clements. I have searching for a death for her under the name of Leinaweaver and aslo a death for Thomas R Leinaweaver and can't find anything. It may well be that they're still alive. I have no other details for Thomas R Leinaweaver though. Can anyone shed any light on this for me please? I don't know why the marriage would be listed under Clements and Leinaweaver. Have given the listing below which I have taken from Free BMD.

Marriages Dec 1953 (>99%)

CLEMENTS Jean K LEINAWEAVER Ipswich 4b 1585
Hart Jean K Leinaweaver Ipswich 4b 1585
LEINAWEAVER Thomas R CLEMENTS Ipswich 4b 1585

Kind regards

Kathryn

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2015 13:42

There is a Thomas R Leinaweaver in the US born 1930

He shows with parents, Robert & Mary on the censuses

Later in 1960 he is here

Name: Thomas R Leinaweaver
Spouse: Jean Leinaweaver
Residence: 1960 - Muncie, Indiana, USA

Have you got the marriage certificate to check his father


Edit: I don't think the above are your people



Name:Jean C Leinaweaver

Birth Date:15 Sep 1932

Phone Number:

Address:
Muncie, IN, 47304

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 13:48

Hiya, no I don't have the marriage certificate. I haven't got that far as yet as I am puzzled about Jean showing as Clements and Hart. I have still been searching myself. Not sure if that would be him as he and Jean married in 1953 not unless he went home after the wedding and then came back. I know it's a long shot but thank you for your input Gins.

Kind regards

Kathryn

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Sep 2015 14:02

I think the Clements on the marriage record may be an error by whoever transcribed the record.

If you look at the image for the marriage under the name Jean K. Clements you will see that the spouse is given as Leinaweaver.

Underneath that there is a marriage for a Jeanne M. to a Clements in Ealing.

If you look for the marriage using Thomas R. Leinaweaver the record shows he married Jean K. Hart.

I think someone has mixed up the surnames.

Kath. x

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 14:06

Okay, thank you for this information. So do I take it that Jean K Hart did marry T R Leinaweaver, sorry if I'm being really thick. If this is the case then is there any further information on these two please? As before, they may well still be alive. I have input into my search his name and also her name giving the surname Leinaweaver but have come up with nothing.

Kind regards


Kathryn

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2015 14:10

Have you got Jean's full DOB please

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Sep 2015 14:11

There is this passenger record of someone of that name going to the United States in 1950. If it's him he must have come back:-

First name(s) THOMAS R
Last name LEINAWEAVER
Gender Male
Occupation CPL
Departure year 1950
Departure day 7
Departure month 12
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name GENERAL HENRY GIBBINS
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Sep 2015 14:14

I can't find any children born to the marriage, or any other trace of them.

Jean could well still be alive so be careful about posting her exact date of birth.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Sep 2015 14:22

Have you discounted this marriage for Jean? It seems a more likely one given that she was born in Lambeth:-

First name(s) JEAN K
Last name HART
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1951
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JEAN K HART married
RONALD WINTER
Spouse's last name WINTER
District LAMBETH
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 5C
Page 2144

There are three possible children to this marriage in 1951, 1953 and 1955 (all girls)

Kath. x

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 14:36

Hiya, thank you all again for your help. I did see this marriage in Lambeth but what has thrown me is I have found a photo of Jean's mother which states on it Jean and Tom's wedding 1953. This family has certainly been a mystery all round. Also that marriage in Lambeth the man, Ronald Winter is living with Jean's mother in 1955. Sorry if I am leading you all up the garden path so to speak. I think I will concentrate on the Lambeth marriage.

I don't have an exact date for Jean's birth, all I know is it was registered in Jan/Feb/March 1933 in Lambeth.

Thank you all for your continued help.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Gee

Gee Report 12 Sep 2015 14:43


Name: Frederick & Charlotte E Hart (also Ronald Winter)

Year:1955

County or Borough:Lambeth

Ward or Division/Constituency:Lambeth

Street address:16 Kennington Lane


Ronald could have been boarding with the Hart's

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Sep 2015 14:51

I think I would get the marriage certificate to Ronald Winter and see if Jean's father is given as Frederick.

Kath. x

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 15:01

Hi again, it's strange if Jean did marry Ronald that she is not shown on the ER with him particular being that it is her parent's address. I will send off for the marriage cert next week. Once again, thank you everyone for your time and help.

Kind regards


Kathryn

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2015 17:23

Ronald isn't with the Harts in 1956, Jean may have just missed being eligible to vote in 1955 depending when the electoral roll was compiled.

malyon

malyon Report 12 Sep 2015 17:33

jean may have married again in 1960 to wilson

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 17:48

Thank you one and all for your continued help. It's all much appreciated. I'll check that marriage in 1960 also.

Kind regards


Kathryn

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2015 17:48

The Jean K Winter who married Wilson in Kent in 1960 may well have been the Jean K Winter who was born 1940 in Kent.

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 12 Sep 2015 19:27

Hi again, thank you. Am going to sign off now as I have to be up at 4.30. Will check when I'm back home tomorrow afternoon if there are any messages.

Thank you all for your support.

Kind regards

Kathryn

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Sep 2015 20:30

From http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=107105635


Gina Kay Estep, 42, of Noblesville, IN, passed away Monday at her residence. She was born in Muncie, IN, to Thomas R. and Jean C. (Clements) Leinaweaver.