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Please can anyone find this family on the 1891 census

Millicent was born 1840 Broughton, Hampshire
Sidney A was born 1858 Lytchett, Dorset


Millicent Johnson in the 1881 England Census
Name:Millicent Johnson
Age:35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head:Wife
Spouse:S. Johnson
Gender:Female
Where born:Poole
Civil Parish:Southampton St Mary
Country:England
Street address:25 Bullar Street
Marital Status:Married
Registration district:Southampton
Sub registration district:Southampton

Household Members:

S. Johnson 24 (Labourer)
Millicent Johnson 35
Frederck Chandler 8 (Step Son) Dorchester
Frank Chandler 6 (Step Son) Southampton

*There were 2 other children on the 1881 census, but they had both married by 1891*


Millicent Johnson in the 1901 England Census
Name:Millicent Johnson
Age:60
Estimated birth year:abt 1841
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Spouse:Sidney A Johnson
Birth Place:Broughton, England
Civil Parish:St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:St Augustine
Town:Southampton
Registration district:Southampton
Sub-registration district:Southampton
Street Address: 211 Radcliffe Road

Household Members:

Sidney A Johnson 42 (Engine Driver) Lytchett, Dorset
Millicent Johnson 60
Frank H Chandler 25 (Step Son) Southampton

Frank H was born Henry Frank, but it seems he preferred to be called Frank

Frederick is Frederick Ernest.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Radcliffe Road, Southampton, Hampshire, England

Sidney Johnson Head Married Male 39 1852 Railway Engine Fireman Dorset, England

Millicent Johnson Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Broughton, Hampshire, England

Frank Chandler Stepson Single Male 16 1875 Engine Cleaner Railway Southampton, Hampshire, England

Millicent Chandler Stepdaughter - Female 7 1884 - Southampton, Hampshire, England

Thank you very much Gins.

Can I ask where you found that? I searched on GR and Ancestry but couldn't find it there.

Hi David

I found them on Find My Past

Not seeing them at Ancestry either!

At least it's not just me then!

Thanks again. :-D

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(also on above)

Chris :)

1891
Piece: RG12/915 Place: Southampton -Hampshire Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church
Folio: 45 Page: 30 Schedule: 195
Address: 211 Radcliff Road

JOHNSON Sidney Head M M 39 Rly Engine Fireman(Em'ee) Dorset - Lytchett
JOHNSON Millicent Wife M F 40 - Hampshire - Broughton
CHANDLER Frank Stpson S M 16 Rly Engine Cleaner(Em'ee) Hampshire - Southampton
CHANDLER Millicent Stpdau - F 7 - Hampshire - Southampton

Sorry to bother you again Gins.

Please would you double check the age and relationship of young Millicent Chandler.

Millicent and Sidney married in 1878 so I can't see how she can be a Step Daughter age 7 in 1891.

They have been missed off Ancestry.

The piece no is 915, folio 45, page 30.

Ancestry have page 29 (up to 207 Radcliffe Rd) and then the next page they have is p 31 which is the beginning of Leyton Rd.

Dea x

Thank you for the link Chris.

Thank you Dea. I can stop looking now!! :-)

She is listed as 7, stepdaughter

I've sent an email to Ancestry regarding the missing information

It's ok.

I have figured out who Millicent Chandler was. She was actually a Granddaughter.

Thank you Gins.

Me again.

I wonder if anyone can please provide me with further information regarding Thomas Jasper Chandler.

Thomas Jasper Chandler born 1864 Southampton, Hampshire.

The son of the above Millicent Johnson and her first husband William Chandler.

I have all information up to the 1881 census.

Thomas married in 1885


Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Chandler Thomas Jasper Southampton 2c 71
Hodder Anne Jane Southampton 2c 71

2 children

Edith Caroline Chandler in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Edith Caroline Chandler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date:22 Jul 1888
Baptism Place:East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Father: Thomas Jasper Chandler
Mother: Annie Jane


Millicent Annie B Chandler in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Millicent Annie B Chandler
Registration Year:1886
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Isle of Wight
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2b
Page:604

Millicent is with her Grandmother Millicent Johnson on the 1891 census.(Posted earlier by Gins) Incorrectly transcribed as Step Daughter (I know all about Millicent)

As far as i can see, there is no 1891 census for Thomas, Anne and daughter Edith.

In 1897 Anne remarries


Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Chandler Annie Jane Southampton 2c 72
WAY Frank Southampton 2c 72

Here she is on the 1901 census

Annie Way in the 1901 England Census
Name:Annie Way
Age:34
Estimated birth year:abt 1867
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Spouse:Frank Way
Birth Place:Alderney, Channel Islands
Civil Parish:St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:Holy Trinity
Town:Southampton
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England

Household Members:

Frank Way 30
Annie Way 34
Edith Chandler 12 (Step Daughter) Isle of Wight
William Chandler 8 (Step Son) Cape Colony___(William Thomas Jasper Chandler)
Lily Way 1

So it would seem then that at some point between 1888 and 1893 Thomas went to South Africa.

Perhaps Thomas died in South Africa? (No death showing on FreeBMD)

I don't have worldwide subs so any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you David.

Googled and just found this

South African Settlers

Chandler, Thomas Jasper

Last Name: Chandler
First Name: Thomas Jasper
Date of Birth: 1863
Place of Birth: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Parents – Father: William Thomas Chandler
Parents – Mother: Millicent
Name of Spouse: Annie Jane
Marriage Date:
Marriage Place:
Date of Death: 16 Feb 1895 age 33
Place of Death: Port Elizabeth, Cape

Notes: DN 410/1895. Children:

Millicent Ann Beatrice 8

Edith Caroline 6

William Thomas 2

Frederick Ernest 2 months

From National Archives South Africa

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE MOOC
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 6/9/337
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 410
PART 1
DESCRIPTION CHANDLER, THOMAS JASPER. DEATH NOTICE.
STARTING 18950000
ENDING 18950000

It would be interesting to know how he died so thank you for that Marie.

I am baffled as to why he went to South Africa in the first place.