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http://admin.1fife.org.uk/uploadfiles/publications/c64_IA6Index1.pdf

(St Andrews Burgh School)

(4 Bairner children on above relating to 1901 posted)

Chris :)

(4th one)

Bairner, Mary - Pupil of St Andrews Burgh School
I/A/6/1778
Page - 71
Date of Birth - 06/11/1898
Name of Parent or Guardian - Bairner, Alex. [Alexander]
Address - 14 Marine Close
Previous School - East Infant School
Date of Leaving - 24/12/1912
Cause of Leaving - 14

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Lachlan Mathieson
Birth 1871 in Kilmania, Islay
Death



Marriage to Sarah Caven
1889 27 Sep Age: 18
Oakbank, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland



Marriage to Margaret Knox McPherson
1893 21 Jul Age: 22
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland



PARENTS


Thomas Mathieson
1843 –

Flora Smith
1851 – 1913


CHILDREN


Flora Smith Mathieson
1896 –

Robina McPherson Mathieson
1898 –

Margaret Knox McPherson Mathieson
1902 – 1981

Lachlan Mathieson
1904 – 1904

Possibly Margaret's family.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
35, Grove Street, Glasgow, Milton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lachlan Mathieson Head - Male 31 1870 Iron Founder's Labourer Ireland
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Margt Mathieson Wife - Female 38 1863 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Flora Mathieson Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Robina Mathieson Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

If this is the right family there are probable WW1 medal cards and Award Rolls for Alexander (Royal Highlanders - Black Watch) and Frank (Royal Garrison Artillery Highland (Fifeshire) TF)

David Flear Bairner was born in 1906 in St Andrews and St Leonards - credits will allow you to look at the birth certificate which will name his parents and mmn.

A David Mathieson Bairner shows as born in St Andrews and St Leonards shortly after your grandparents marriage.

Looking at the 1901 census for St Andrews and St Leonards I would hazard this is the family - the only Bairners in that area BUT you need the parents names, ages etc from certificates to confirm.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marine Place, 14, St Andrews, St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Bairner Head Married Male 39 1862 Plumber Craigrothie, Fife, Scotland
Margaret Bairner Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Newburgh, Fife, Scotland
Alexander Bairner Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
Maggie G Bairner Daughter - Female 9 1892 Scholar St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
Frank W Bairner Son - Male 5 1896 Scholar St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
Mary D Bairner Daughter - Female 2 1899 - St Andrews, Fife, Scotland

By manipulating the Scotland'sPeople site for free I can see -

The only marriage coming up for a David Bairner and Margaret Mathieson is in the Milton RD of Glasgow City in 1930

You need to buy credits for Scotlands People website as it is Pay as you go - £7 for 30 credits. 1 credit will get you a list of results and for 5 credits you will be able to see and download a copy of the marriage certificate as it is over 75 years ago (100 years for births and 50 years for deaths. Anything more recent and you will be able to order for the Scottish GRO with the reference details given)

The marriage certificate should give full names and ages (so you can look then for births), names of parents including the mothers maiden name. Before that you will be looking at the old parish records which will tell you less.

The 1911 census is only available from SP, as are the originals of the previous census', but commercial sites carry 1841-1901 transcriptions.

Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942 Transcription
First name(s) David Flear
Last name Bairner
Attestation year 1938
Service number 1485770
Discharged: 1954 (age limit)
Record set Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

Hello Joclyn

Your Grandparents married in 1930- as Detective says- the marriage certificate is available to view on-line at scotlandspeople and will tell you their ages and parents' names.

1930 Marriage:
Husband: BAIRNER DAVID FLEAR
Wife: MATHIESON MARGARET KNOX M
District: MILTON
City/ County GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

Scottish records for this period will be on Scotlandspeople, a pay to view site.

This link explains the charges
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/faqs/index.aspx?42

You ought to be able to find the reg details of your grandparents marriage then either download the image, or send away for the certificate. It will give far more detail than the other ones in the UK.

I am from Scotland and I have been trying to find information on my grandparents. My grandmother was from Glasgow. Her name was Margaret Mathieson she married my Grandfather David Bairner in St Andrews. How do I find out more.? many thanks Jo :-(