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Emigration to New York 1882-83

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Maureen

Maureen Report 3 Sep 2015 12:43

Hi everyone
Sorry I have only just logged on today-having been out this morning. Thank you all for your hard work. Yes, My gt grandmother was pregnant when she returned to England. The ages on the listing are incorrect for her-she was 38 & my grandfather who was 8 not 6. This is the 1st time I have seen the report of an assault on my grandfather by his stepfather-thank you for that.
It's strange that there apparently is no record of them going to the USA. I have searched many a time & also for my gt grandfathers death to no avail. That's why I decided to ask you good people for your help but it seems to be a bit of tough nut to crack.
My thanks to you all Maureen

Gritty

Gritty Report 3 Sep 2015 08:26

This looks like their return:

Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 11 May 1895
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ship Name: Adriatic
Official Number: 65925

Mary Clarke 31 no profession
Charles Clarke 6 Child
William Clarke 5 Child
Kate Clarke 4 Child
Rose Clarke 3 Child
George Clarke 2 Child

EDIT: Sorry- a repeat, I see it was already given on previous thread

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Sep 2015 07:39

http://www.findagrave.com/

(is there anything relating on above, always worth a look with things USA!)

Chris :)

03 December 1906 (Monday) - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

A charge against Henry Huddlestone, labourer, 67, Carlton road, of unlawfully wounding his step-son, Charles Clarke, of the same address, on the 24th, was reduced to one of assault, which was denied. The prosecution said that the boy's mother being ill, prisoner had been doing her work on the Saturday named. The trouble arose over Clarke wanting his tea, the boy took up the poker to stir the fire, this Huddlestone took from him, he picked up the tongs for the same purpose, there was a struggle, and the step father hit him twice on the head with the poker.
Mr. H.B. Clayton defending, called his client to the witness box, to say that the boy was struck on the head accidentally. He had been in custody eight days, added Mr. Clayton, and it was his first appearance. In consideration of this, the Bench told prisoner he would be discharged.


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1275691

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Sep 2015 20:02

The children are named Clarke in 1911:

Henry Huddleston

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Henry Huddleston
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottingham, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Hooton Terrace Castle Street Nottingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Railway Porter
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 20523
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Huddleston 42
Evelyn Mary Huddleston 53
George Henry Clarke 17
James Henry Clarke 15
Kate Catherine Clarke 22
Rose Hannah Clarke 19

Married 12 years, no children of that marriage.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Sep 2015 19:49

I can't find the record of them arriving in USA nor can I find their return in 1895. This seems to be them in 1901:

Charles W Huddlestone

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Charles W Huddlestone
[Charles Middleton Clarke]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Henry Huddlestone
Mother: Evelyn M Huddlestone
Birth Place: New York, USA
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3176
Folio: 47
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Huddlestone 32
Evelyn M Huddlestone 42
Charles W Huddlestone 15
William H Huddlestone 14
George H Huddlestone 9
Kate C Huddlestone 12
Roseanna Huddlestone 11
James H Huddlestone 6

The last child was born in Nottingham. Was she perhaps pregnant when she left USA or is the father Henry Huddlestone who she didn't marry until 1899.

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Clarke Evelyn Mary Nottingham 7b 514
Huddleston William Henry Nottingham 7b 514

But he seems to have been born 1894:

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Clarke James Nottingham 7b 332

Maureen

Maureen Report 1 Sep 2015 20:44

Thanks Alviegal,
I have to go out in the morning but will log on in the afternoon.
Maureen

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Sep 2015 20:38

Sorry maureen, must go but I will look back tomorrow.

Maureen

Maureen Report 1 Sep 2015 20:31

Hi Alviegal

Charles Middleton Clark born 1886 (my grandfather), William, George, Kate & Rose. My grandfather was born at 139 E56th St registered in Manhattan.
The death of James aged 3 also shows the same address.

Maureen

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Sep 2015 20:23

What are the names of the children born in NY please? I can't find them at all.

Maureen

Maureen Report 1 Sep 2015 20:21

Thanks Malyon, but I don't think it's the right one I'm afraid. James would have been about 27/28 when he went.
Maureen

Maureen

Maureen Report 1 Sep 2015 20:15

Yes that is their marriage- I think Mary was her 2nd name but, marrying in a Roman Catholic church, they recorded her name as Mary Evelyn.
Maureen

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Sep 2015 20:11

Is this the correct marriage for them?


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) MARY EVELYN
Last name BROWNE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1881
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ MARY EVELYN BROWNE married one of these people
SAMUEL HOPKIN, JAMES CLARKE
District NOTTINGHAM
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England

Maureen

Maureen Report 1 Sep 2015 19:50

My gt grandparents emigrated to New York but I haven't been able to find any details of them going. James Clarke, a plasterer, born 1855 in Ireland married Evelyn Brown in 1881 in Nottingham. Their daughter Gertrude was baptised in 1882 in Nottingham & they emigrated sometime between then & their son James being born in 1883 in New York. I can find the burials in Calvary Cemetery of the 2 children in 1886 & the births of their 5 other children (the surname was then spelt Clark) who all came back to England with their mother after the untimely accidental death of their father. They arrived in Liverpool in 1895.
If anyone can throw any light on any of this & the death of my gt grandfather, which I also can't find, I would be most grateful.
Maureen