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I wish I'd remembered I'd already looked up a lot of that info, MC!

Just for background info:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343474

Oh yes, thanks, Ed, I see the marriage now.
Looking on FreeBMD, the two names don't come up together, and also she's listed as Beatrice Maud, not Maud Beatrice.

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
Sears Ethel Hackney 1b 640
Stinton Beatrice Maud Hackney 1b 640
Tribence Henry Amos Hackney 1b 640


Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
BAYLISS Alfred Edmonds Hackney 1b 64[09]



Re Hackney or Bethnal Green, in 1901 some areas changed from one registration district to the other .
ukbmd says:

Table 2: Boundary Changes affecting Bethnal Green Registration District
(a)
Lost part of the parish of Bethnal Green (which became part of the parish of Hackney on 1.4.1901) to Hackney registration district.
(b)
Gained part of the parish of Bethnal Green (which until 1.4.1901 formed part of the parish of Hackney) from Hackney registration district.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bethnal%20green.html

I saw the 1924 death of Henry J and puzzeled over it. Henry birth registered Hackney as are all the children both younger and older so why go to a different district to register a death?

1911 Alfred, Maud and daughter Eva living in St Luke London

They married 30 Jan 1910 Hackney St Michael and All Angels

???

Henry J Bayliss
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Henry J Bayliss
Birth Date: abt 1924
Date of Registration: Jun 1924
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County:
Volume: 1c
Page: 116

Maud and Alfred don't appear to have been married at all - at least I can't see any record of it. I can't see Maud in 1911, either.

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Stinton Maud Beattie Hackney 1b 546



Maud Stinton
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Maud Stinton
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Stinton
Mother's name: Ann Stinton
Gender: Female
Where born: Hackney
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
:Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 258
Folio: 58
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stinton 35 - Ealing
Ann Stinton 36 - Essex
Maud Stinton 6
Rose Stinton 5 - Bethnal Green
Flora Stinton 3 - Bethnal Green
Ann Stinton 2 - Bethnal Green
George Stinton 1 - Bethnal Green
Henry Stinton 3 1/12 - Bethnal Green


Looks like the same family in 1901, though mother's name's different, also father's birthplace:

Maud Stinton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Maud Stinton
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: George Stinton
Mother: Eliza Stinton
Birth Place: Hackney, London, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 283
Folio: 75
Page Number: 40
Household schedule number: 229
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stinton 46 - Norwood, surrey
Eliza Stinton 47 - Essex
Maud Stinton 18
Florence Stinton 14 - Bethnal Green
Annie Stinton 13 - Bethnal Green
Henry Stinton 10 - Bethnal Grreen
Ethel Stinton 5 - Bethnal Green



Ethel Stinton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ethel Stinton
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 19 Wadeson Street, Bethnal Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: BOX MAKING WOOD
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Piece: 1413
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stinton 50 - Ealing (same as 1891)
Eliza Stinton 50 - Coggeshall, Essex
Henry Stinton 20 - London
Ethel Stinton 17 - London

George & Eliza / Ann married 30 years, 7 children, 6 living, 1 died.

Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)
STINTON George 1 Bethnal Green 1c

No idea why I put Marion but now corrected

I saw the typist Marjorie and if that is her then if she married it could be anywhere. The Bayliss name is not uncommon around England and there are plenty of Marjories and Henry J to chose from.
The Edmonds-Bayliss name goes back to a Sarah Edmonds who had an illegitimate child and when Sarah married Bayliss the child took the name Edmonds-Bayliss and the rest is history.

Ah - a number (all?) of them were

Birth, Marriage & Death,
Name: Henry J Edmonds-bayliss
Birth: Dec 1923 - Hackney, London


England & Wales, Birth Index,
Name: Arthur R Edmonds-bayliss
Birth: Mar 1921 - Hackney, London


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1
Name: Sidney W Edmonds-bayliss
Birth: Mar 1921 - Hackney, London


England & Wales, Marriage Index,
Name: Gladys M Edmonds-bayliss
1958, Wood Green

Name: Henry J Bayliss
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stinton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 720

double indexed as
Name: Henry J Edmonds-bayliss
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stinton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 720

So is Marjorie

Name: Marjorie Bayliss
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stinton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 702

Name: Marjorie Edmonds-bayliss
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stinton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 702

Are the other children the same, or might Majorie and Henry have been conceived out side of the marriage

Have you followed through with this marriage? She might have volunteered for war work away from home.

Name: Marjorie Bayliss
Spouse Leonard Gilbert
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 231

This one's an English typist destination, 96 St Margarets Rd, Hanwell W7. Her permanant place of residence is England

Name: Marjorie Bayliss
Birth Date: abt 1926
Age: 24
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1950
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Scythia
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 143730

??

Marjorie not Marion

Marjorie was born 1925 Hackney to parents Alfred and Maud Beatrice. Alfred and Maud had numerous children who I have been able to find living with them on different occassions by checking the voter registrations for the Hackney and Tottenham areas 1949-62 but Marjorie and her brother Henry J(1923) never show up. Nothing stands out in freebmd for likely marriages or deaths. Passenger lists don't show anything either.
Any ideas where else to look?