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I am trying to find the burial place of Walter Mortimer the problem I have is he died in Gipping District Oct 1/4 1944, I know he was living in Ipswich in 1901 but can't find him on 1911 census (that would be useful too) either, as there is alot of villages in the Gipping district i just wondered if anyone had come across him his wife was called Alice Maud b circa 1878 (nee Mattin), Walter born in Ipswich District in 1866 they had a daughter Gwendoline Marjorie 2.4.1900 in ipswich, Walter was the son of Thomas And Louisa Mortimer a grain merchant & farmer I have all census and other details upto the 1901 census then the trail goes cold, any help appreciated

The couple divorced so she won't be with him in 1911



Name:Walter Mortimer

Gender:Male

Spouse Name:Alice Maud Mortimer

Spouse Gender:Female

Petition Year:1901

Type of Record:Wife's petition

Divorce Court File Number:1783

perhaps alice married again

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
MORTIMER Alice M Last Bury St. E. 4a 1227

Yes thank you i was looking at the divorce papers yesterday, been doing so much Mortimer tree the last couple of days forgot what I had and hadn't looked at , he was pretty mean to her and didn't treat her well , its Walter i really want to find though. thanks for the info though

Maybe he was keeping his head down after the divorce

maybe, will check to see if he went overseas and came back,

Did his Daughter marry, what details are said for him?...

Chris :)

Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3) Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) GWENDOLEN MARJORIE
Last name MORTIMER
Birth year 1900
Baptism year 1900
Baptism day 24
Baptism month Apr
Parish IPSWICH, ST MATTHEW
Mother's name Alice Maud
Father's name Walter
Father's occupation Corn Merchant
Residence Ipswich
County Suffolk
Country England
Notes bn 2 Apr; Private Baptism/ Russell Rd


Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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MORTIMER Gwendolen Marjorie Ipswich 4a 968
Mortimer Gwendoline Marjorie Ipswich 4a 968

thank you for that haven't got a marriage certificate or marriage details although looking on free bmd there are three marriages for Gwendoline M Mortimer that could be relevant for her so don't know that, i am more interested at the moment finding what happened to Walter as i said i know he died in Oct 1/4 1944 in gipping district,
thank you for your help

Just found Alice Maud Mortimer on 1911 census living with her cousin Emily Rosier in Armley, west riding of Yorkshire no sign of Gwendoline though, Alice is calling herself single and a sewing machinist

The informant on his death certificate could be a relative

Deaths Dec 1944
Mortimer Walter. 77 Gipping 4a 1077

I know you are looking for Walter but sometimes we have to look for other family members that may lead to the person in question

Is this the childs death?



Deaths Mar 1907
MORTIMER Gwendolen M 6 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 367

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
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LAST James F Mortimer Bury St. E. 4a 1227

(spouse of that 1914 Marriage posted above, in case of anything!)

Chris :)

This is the marriage for the Alice living in Armley



Name:Alice Maud Mortimer <<Spinster

Birth Year:abt 1877

Age:36

Marriage or Bann Date:2 Aug 1913

Parish:Armley, St Bartholomew, Yorkshire, England

Spouse:John Richard Williams <<Cooper, widower

Father:Alfred Mortimer <<Carpenter deceased

Spouse Father:Edmund Williams <<Cooper deceased

Wit: Ernest Henry Mortimer & Lily Rosier

Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Mortimer Walter Bromley 2a 848
Mattin Alice Maud Bromley 2a 848


27 June 1896 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

WEDDING or Ma. WALTRa MOaRTIME. - Mr. Vi Walter Mortimer, second son of Mr. Thomas al Mortimer, of Gainsborough Lodge, Ipswich, ?? married to Miss Alice Maud Mattin, youngest daughter of...

(according to above article, her Father, Wm. Mattin, of Dunked, Sidcup)

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
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Bubb Henry Bromley 2a 1062
Connolly Margaret Bromley 2a 1062
Innes George Bromley 2a 1062
Mattin Emma Bromley 2a 1062


(perhaps above was her Sister, an 'Emmie' Mattin was bridesmaid for Alice)


(other bridesmaids, the Misses Julia and Nellie Parkinson, Sidcup, the Misses Amy and May Sladden (cousins of bride)


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
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MATTIN William W. Ham 4a 83
POCOCK Anne Sarah W. Ham 4a 83

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
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ALLEN Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 163
POCOCK Mary W. Ham 4a 163
Reilly Charles Aloyesus W.Ham 4a 163
SLADDEN Henry West Ham 4a 163

(if anything relating to Amy and May Sladden, 1891, Pembroke Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, Essex)

Leading on from Chris


This looks like Alice in 1901



Name:
Alice M
[Alice M Mattin]

Age:23

Estimated birth year:abt 1878

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Father:Willie Matton

Mother:Anne S Matton

Birth Place:Walthamstow, England

Civil Parish:Foots Cray

Ecclesiastical parish:St. Johns

County/Island:Kent

Registration district:Bromley

Sub-registration district:Chislehurst

ED, institution, or vessel:5

Piece:694
Folio:34
Page Number:59

Household schedule number:407

Household Members:



Willie Matton 54
Anne S Matton 57
Willm C Matton 24
Alice M Matton 23
Gwendoline Matton 11/12 <<<<<<her daughter
Amy Gladewell 19
Jesse M Ranplin 21

Thankyou for all the info some of it I had some I didn't looks like it wasn't the right Alice Maud in Armley, thankyou Gins for Gwendolins possible death in London, still would like to find Walters death& burial think a death cert is my next move, thank you everybody

Still no luck with Walter but I came across this



Births Mar 1913
Gardner Gwendoline M Mattin Richmond S. 2a 985


A coincidence?

ah think that difinate to close a name to be a coincidence will look at that when i get back from work thankyou for all your help

Are you sure that you have the correct death in 1944?

Grasping at straws....his mothers name was 'Rice' and am wondering if this has been mistranscribed?



Name:Walter Mortimer

Birth Year:abt 1867

Age:50

Death Place:St Kilda, Victoria

Father's name:Mortimer Thomas

Mother's name:Louisa Bryce

Registration Year:1917

Registration Place:Victoria

Registration Number:14214

http://tinyurl.com/qe4mtoq

(looks to be after Death of Mother 1918, is he mentioned in her Will?)

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=mortimer&yearOfDeath=1918&page=2#calendar

Chris :)

(not sure on one below in same area!, age out)

Deaths Sep 1941 (>99%)
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Last Alice M 58 Gipping 4a 1608