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james fletcher rowley 1863

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brummie46

brummie46 Report 21 Aug 2015 09:58

thanks Gritty for that information hence now it doesn't look like its the same family of Lanes that lived a few doors away from my grandparents.
Im not sure if I found a death for Philip in Bromsgrove? but I wonder if Mary ever married. It would be great if we could find some possible children of PHilip and Mary for they would be welcomed to our family gathering in October (Rowleys) coming from Australia, Canada and many other places.

Gritty

Gritty Report 21 Aug 2015 08:39

Looks like Gladys did marry Harold Lane:

Birmingham electoral register:
1930
57 Station Road, Moseley & Kings Heath Ward

Harold Charles Lane
Gladys Lane
James Fletcher Rowley
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James is listed at the 57 Station Road address 1920- 1930
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Harold and Gladys then moved to 178 Pineapple Road where they lived for many years. Other Lane surnames at the address are Mary and Philip.

Mary is still living with Harold and Gladys in 1965.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Aug 2015 10:34

What was the name and address of your grandfather? What kind of shop did Mrs Lane keep?

brummie46

brummie46 Report 19 Aug 2015 09:40

Wow Chris Ho brilliant. He would have been my grandfathers cousin.
Something keeps niggling me at the back of my mind why does the name Bernard mean something to me. Is it something I heard or read when I was much younger. Will have to delve into my late grandfathers little black book to which he kept dates etc., of relatives - bless him I have been able to find some of my ancestors through this little black book.
My grandfather passed away in 1973 and my uncle for some reason kept this book and before he passed away I asked him if he would leave this book to me to which he did.
I keep telling people to now write on back of photographs and make notes of anything relating to family for this will help for next generation.
Many thanks to everyone who helped but now have to find out more info on the Lane family for I know a Mrs Lane was the godmother of my uncle (1925) and she had a sister/sister in law who wed my gr uncle in the 1970s - so is there a family connection. This Mrs Lane kept a shop a few doors away from my grandparents so this will be a very interesting find. If anyone is willing to do some further searches for me would be much appreciated.
Thanks once again to all concerned

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Aug 2015 22:05

(reference to MM Award on Death above)

Chris :)

20 November 1918 - Birmingham Daily Post - Birmingham, West Midlands

The Military Medal has been awarded to Corporal Bernard Rowley, 4th Hussars, only son of Mr. J. F. Rowley, 57, Station Road, King’s Heath. Corporal Rowley, who has been killed in action carried a message through a heavy barrage, and displayed remarkable coolness and resource. He was born at Darlaston, educated at Harborne, and before joining the Hussars in September, 1914, was assistant to Mr. Hughes butcher West Bromwich.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Aug 2015 17:08

Possible birth for Gladys

Births Sep 1892
Rowley Gladys W. Bromwich 6b 914

With a possible death if Gladys married Harold

Name: Glayds Lane
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1892
Date of Registration: Dec 1975
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 32
Page: 1638

brummie46

brummie46 Report 18 Aug 2015 16:35

thanks Londonbelle & Argyllgran, well what you have found as totally left me speechless for some things now happen to tie up - well I hope.
I actually know the place to where Gladys was a servant,and it seems like that some of the family moved to be near my gr grandparents.
Will see if I can delve further now on Gladys children and regarding marrying into the name Lane well I know that my uncle had a godmother of the name Lane and will see if any connection there
THanks for you time and findings much appreciated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2015 16:20

Their daughter Gladys in 1911:

Gladys Rowley

in the 1911 England Census
Name: Gladys Rowley
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wednesbury, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Smethwick
Search Photos: Search for 'Smethwick' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: 23 Upper Hagley Rd, Edgbaston, Smethwick, Birmingham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Mother's Help
Registration district: Kings Norton
Registration District Number: 383
Sub-registration district: Smithwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 17945
Household Members:
Name Age
John Percy Martin 35
Frances Clara Ellen Martin 30
Margaret Cecily Martin 6
John Franley Martin 2
Bessie Geofrey Martin 1
Gladys Rowley 18



Possibly her marriage?? Just a guess, based on reg district.

Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
LANE Harold C Rowley Walsall 6b 1431
Rowley Gladys Lane Walsall 6b 1431


Possible children of that marriage:

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Lane Philip Rowley Kings N 6d 83
Lane Mary Rowley King's N 6d 42

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Aug 2015 15:38

Looks like their son, Bernard, sadly died in WW1

Name: Bernard Rowley
Birth Place: Darlaston, Stafford
Residence: Stock-on-trent
Death Date: 30 Mar 1918
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: West Bromwich
Rank: L Corporal
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line
Battalion: 4th (Queens Own) Hussars
Regimental Number: 18046
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

From the Commonwealth War Graves Commision site

Name: Bernard Rowley
Rank:
Lance Corporal
Service No:
18046
Date of Death:
30/03/1918
Age:
28
Regiment/Service:
4th (Queen's Own) Hussars
Awards:
M M
Grave Reference:
A. 28.
Cemetery:
MOREUIL COMMUNAL CEMETERY ALLIED EXTENSION
Additional Information:
Son of James Fletcher Rowley and Mary Rowley, of 57, Station Rd., King's Heath, Birmingham. Native of Darlaston.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Aug 2015 13:58

Name James Fletcher Rowley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Staffordshire
Parish DARLASTON
Ecclesiastical Parish ST LAWRENCE
Sub-District DARLASTON
Registration District WALSALL
Gender Male
Age 28
Relationship to Head of Household Son In Law
Birthplace Dawley, Shropshire
Schedule Type Household

brummie46

brummie46 Report 18 Aug 2015 13:55

Thank you Ann but already have the information that you have provided. At this moment in time just trying to find info on James for I have some certain notes on other siblings.
thanks again

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Aug 2015 13:55

Name James Fletcher Rowley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cambridgeshire
Parish Whittesley
Sub-District Whittlesey
Registration District Whittlesey
Gender Male
Age 49
Birthplace Dawley, Shropshire
Record Type Institution

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Aug 2015 13:53

Name James F Rowley
Age (Original) 18
Gender Male
Birth Year 1863
Birthplace Dawley, Shropshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household Assistant
Marital Status Single
Occupation Grocers Assistant
Address 21 Pinfold St
Event Place Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2817 / 80
Page Number 2

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Aug 2015 13:52

Name James F Rowley
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
County Staffordshire
Civil Parish Darlaston
Ecclesiastical Parish St Lawrence
Sub-District Darlaston
Registration District Walsall
Gender Male
Age 38
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Dawley, Salop
Schedule Type Household

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Aug 2015 13:51

Edwin Rowley Head M 41 Newport, Shropshire
Eliza Rowley Wife F 45 Wellington, Shropshire
John E Rowley Son M 18 Dawley, Shropshire
Theophilus Rowley Son M 15 Dawley, Shropshire
Mary E Rowley Daughter F 13 Dawley, Shropshire
George Rowley Son M 11 Dawley, Shropshire
Sarah Rowley Daughter F 10 Dawley, Shropshire
James F Rowley Son M 9 Dawley, Shropshire
Hannah Rowley Daughter F 7 Dawley, Shropshire
William H Rowley Son M 5 Dawley, Shropshire
John Chilton Assistant M 59 Woodbridge, Suffolk

brummie46

brummie46 Report 18 Aug 2015 13:39

I am trying to further my tree on my gr grandfathers siblings.
James.F.Rowley 1863 born Dawley
checked census's and find the following 1881 Darlaston. 1891 Dawley. 1890 seems wed to a Mary Jacobs. in 1901 back in Darlaston 1911 in Cambridgeshire and then I believe burieal 18th August 1933 in Harborne Staffordshire.
Would like to know if any descendants (possibly now would be gr gr grandchildren out there.)
Can anyone help please.
thank you