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ArgyllGran

The last post you sent me, I believe to be the family I am looking for, East Pontop is the address on John James Robert's marriage certificate. I have had conflicting info. on the mother's name, it could have been Jane or Mary, maybe the name Jane was remembered because of the daughter Jane or maybe an aunt. Of course names always followed in families those days, so it is easy to have many Johns, James and Roberts along with Janes and Marys.

Is this the family you mean, Sheila - at East Pontop, Annfield Plain?
There's a Robert of the right age.

What were the parents' names? You haven't told us that yet, unless I've missed it.

Joseph Glendinng
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Joseph Glendinng
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Edmondsley, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Kyo
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 15 East Pontop Annfield Plain Durham
Occupation: School
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration District Number: 550
Sub-registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 29868
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Glendinng 45
Mary Glendinng 46
Jane Glendinng 18
Edward Glendinng 15
Joseph Glendinng 13
Robert Glendinng 11
Albert Glendinng 6
Flarance Glendinng 2

The 1911 clearly shows James as born c1887 Chester-le-Street

The tree on Ancestry has attached 1891 & 1901 for a James Glendinning born c1889 Washington

I am of the opinion that the Ancestry tree has included records for 2 different James Glendinning

Do you have James married to Elizabeth Chator Sonenwold in 1910.
Wasn't he actually John James Robert Glendinning on 1911 census?Married but wife at home with her parents.

Trees on ancestry have his parents as John and Mary Ann nee Carr,with no brother named Robert.

Maryb.

Margee

Robert was not killed in an explosion, I am sorry to say he was decapitated, something to do with the lift shaft.

Thanks for your help.

Must go now, will check on here again tomorrow

Sheila x

You have got the one Claire, that's what I have.

To ArgyllGran - Because of your info. regarding the death of Robert, age 16, I have found the family in the 1911 census, they are at East Pontop, this is the right family as when James got married this is the address for his father on the marriage certificate. Now I have to try and work backover.

Many, many thanks to you all

Sheila x

The only Glendenning death on the Durham Mining Museum site who was 16 was a John Glendenning who was killed in 1909. His father John was also killed in the same mine explosion in 1909.

Name: John James Robert Glendenning
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Chertenle Street, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Kyo
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County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 2 Hare Lawe Catchgate Anfield Plain
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: (miner) Hewer Of Coal

Place of birth should read "Chester-le-Street"

Sorry, made a mistake in my last reply.

24 year old James is in the 1911 census not the 1901 census, this, I am sure, is the right James, he is living in Annfield Plain, on going back from there I cannot be sure of anything anymore.

Sheila x

Thank you so much for your replies, I was not expecting to hear from anyone so soon and with so much info. I am not 100% sure that I had the right family to begin with, it was just that the mother and father's names appeared to be correct and the age of James was correct, also as there was an Ale business within the family, it looked like, the father being a manager of a public house, could fit in. The 24 year old James I found in the 1901 census and he was on his own, possible his wife Elizabeth was elsewhere. He was a coal miner. His father could also have been a coal miner. James could also have had the names John and Robert. Clair, you have the right James's death, but there are some there that can not be the right families.
I will try and process further all of the info you have all sent, as there is quite a bit to take in.

Can't see a birth record for a James A (as per 1891 census I posted). Must be a mistake by the clerk

But there's this, which would tie in with 1891 re year and place of birth, and with the 1959 death:

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
GLENDINNING James Robert Chester le S. 10a 466

We can rule out the family in 1911 posted by Marie Celeste.

Their Robert died in the war aged 22:

GLENDINNING, ROBERT

Rank:
Private
Service No:
21/331
Date of Death:
29/10/1918
Age:
22
Regiment/Service:
Durham Light Infantry
13th Bn.
Panel Reference:
Panel 9.
Memorial:
VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Joseph and Dorothy Jane Glendinning, of 101, Pitfield St., Sacriston, Durham.

So now we've 3!

Sheila's a new poster so I've inboxed her and asked that she returns to this thread

This will be the same family in 1891 - ie - same as 1901 posted by Claire:

James A Glendinning

in the 1891 England Census
Name: James A Glendinning
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Glendinning
Mother's name: June Glendinning
Gender: Male
Where born: Chester-le-Street, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Edmondsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peters Sacriston
Town: Edmondsley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Chester Le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4121
Folio: 62
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Glendinning 25
June Glendinning 25
James A Glendinning 4
John T Glendinning 1

The age is different on this 1911, but the names match:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26 Blackett St Sacriston Durham, Witton Gilbert, Durham, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place

Joseph Glendenning Head Married Male Coal Hewer 42 1869 Burn Hope Durham
Dorthory Jane Glendenning Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Waldridge Fell Durham
James Glendenning Son Single Male Miner Putter Below 19 1892 Waldridge Fell Durham
Robert Glendenning - - Male Belt Lad Screens Above 14 1897 Sacriston Durham
Joseph Glendenning Son - Male School Boy 6 1905 Sacriston Durham

It depends whether Sheila knows the birth year for definite, or if it's based on that 1959 death - which has a middle name of Robert.

There's this death of a Robert aged 16 - could this be him? Age-wise, it would fit with the 1901 census posted by Claire

Deaths Jun 1916 (>99%)
Glendenning Robert 16 Lanchester 10a 373

Sheila -

Just so we're sure we're not looking at the wrong family - are you just assuming that the family you found in the census is the right one, or do you have proved info such as James's YOB, parents' names, etc?

Name: James Glendinning
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Robert Glendinning
Mother: Jane Glendinning
Birth Place: Waldridge, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Whickham
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Ecclesiastical parish: Dunston Christchurch
Town: Dunston
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Whickham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4762
Folio: 116
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Glendinning 36
Jane Glendinning 35
James Glendinning 15
John Glendinning 11
Jane Glendinning 7
Edward Glendinning 5
Joseph Glendinning 2
Robert Glendinning 11/12

Yes Claire - I was just looking into that but if the 1911 is correct then it does look like the family in 1891 which includes his sister Charlotte wo married John William Golphin ???

I will look further for info on Robert and Joseph to connect....................

Dea x

The 1959 death is for James Robert

Name: James R Glendenning
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Sep 1959
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Durham North Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 429

James Robert Glendenning left approx £900 in his will