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Frederick Blacknell 1837 Calverton Nottingham

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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 11:39

Hi
I just wonder if someone could help me
I have found the Marriage for Frederick Blacknell and Ann Brown 1865 Calverton
But it states no Father for Frederick
Any ideas how I can find out please
Olive

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 11:53

This man?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mansfield Lane, Calverton, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
John Beardant Head Married Male 48 1813 Framework Knitter Calverton, Nottinghamshire
Ann Beardant Wife Married Female 47 1814 Dressmaker Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Frederick Blacknell Son Unmarried 24 1837 Framework Knitter Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Mary Ann Blacknell Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Emma Blacknell Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Calverton, Nottinghamshire,

Think FMP transcription is wrong- Family name (for John, Ann, Mary and Emma) looks like Beardall, and Frederick's name looks like Blacknall

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 11:55

Hi Olive

Where did you find the marriage details that states no father?

Derek

Derek Report 12 Aug 2015 11:58

Two possible baptisms at Calverton..I believe them to be the same...

February 26 1837 son of ANN BLACKNELL
February 28 1837..or probably the 26th....son of JOHN BEARDALL and ANN BLACKNALL.............note the two spellings of Blacknall.

The illegitimate baptism son of Ann Blacknell is confiemed..the variation is not..though as Gritty says the 1861 census seems to support the father as being John Beardall.

Good luck


Derek.

safc

safc Report 12 Aug 2015 12:01

County Nottinghamshire
Place Calverton
Church St Wilfrid Pr
RegisterNumber 788
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 26 Feb 1837
Forename Frederick
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname BLACKNALL
Abode Calverton
FatherOccupation Spinster
Notes
FileNumber 40425

Derek

Derek Report 12 Aug 2015 12:02

The 1841 census has the family name as BEARDALL...John and Ann..and son Frederick born 1837..............he may have been born illegitimately, but it looks as if the parents married before 1841.easily checked...

Derek.

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 12:03

Marriage:

First name(s) John
Last name Beardall
Marriage year 1838
Marriage date 03 Jun 1838
Marriage place Calverton
Church St Wilfrid
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Blacknell
County Nottinghamshire
Country England

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 12:05

Hi
II found it in the Local Library
But when I read it it state s Marriage 13 th August 1865 the Parish Church Calverton
This is very strange maybe a different Frederick Blacknell
???
Thankyou for your reply
Olive

Derek

Derek Report 12 Aug 2015 12:05

Q.E.D.....well done Gritty.........

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 12:10

Hi
Thankyou again
I think Frederick Blacknell had 2 sons
Arthur Blacknell born 1861 Calverton
Albert Edward Blacknell born 1864 Calverton
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 12:17

Hi
I will try to find the Census for
1851 onwards and see what they say about Frederick s Family
Thankyou all again
Olive

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 13:33

Same man 1871- presumeably FWK stands for Frame work knitter. If the Ann Brown marriage is correct- the children were born before marriage (possibly in the name of Brown?).

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Top End, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Frederick Blacknall Head - Male FWK 33 1838 - Calverton Nottinghamshire,
Ann Blacknall Wife - Female 38 1833 - Calverton Nottinghamshire,
Arthur Blacknall Son - Male 10 1861 - Calverton Nottinghamshire,
Albert Blacknall Son - Male 7 1864 - Calverton Nottinghamshire,
Ellen Bailey Child Nurse - Female 0 1871 - Nottinghamshire, England

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 13:38

This could be Ann in 1861- unmarried:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mansfield Lane, Calverton, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Brown Head Unmarried Female 28 1833 Dressmaker Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
William Brown Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Alice Brown Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Arthur Brown Son - Male 0 1861 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England

safc

safc Report 12 Aug 2015 13:40


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cross Street, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Blackwell Head Married Male 47 1834 Frame W K Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Mary A Blackwell Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Alice Bram Daughter Single Female 23 1858 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Arthur Blackwell Son Single Male 20 1861 Frame W K Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Albert Blackwell Son Single Male 17 1864 Frame W K Calverton, Nottinghamshire, England
Transcription
Florence Sekington Boarder Single Female 3 1878 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 13:42

Hi Gritty
I wondered if the Children of Frederick Blacknell had been born before the Marriage of Frederick and Ann
I will have to try and find the births to see if they were born before the marriage ??

I wonder who Ellen Bailey belonged to ??
Thankyou
Olive :-)

safc

safc Report 12 Aug 2015 13:50

County Nottinghamshire
Place Calverton
Church St Wilfrid Pr
RegisterNumber 629
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 24 Feb 1859
Forename Alice
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname BROWN
Abode Calverton
FatherOccupation Spinster
Notes Illegitimate
FileNumber 40425

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 13:50

Hi
Re the 1861 Census
On the Marrige for Frederick Blacknell and Ann Brown
It states witness Alice Brown????
From
Olive

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 14:57

Witness Alice was possibly Ann's younger sister- listed here on the 1851 as Allis:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Town Street, Calverton, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Henry Brown Head Married Male 42 1809 Labourer Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Marther Brown Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Ann Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Seamer Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Harriott Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Seamer Calverton, Nottinghamshire
James Brown Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Servant Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Elizabeth Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Servant Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Sarah Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire,
Allis Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 - Calverton, Nottinghamshire,

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 15:33

Hi
Thankyou so much for all the information
Olive

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2015 16:08

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Calverton
Church St Wilfrid Pr
RegisterNumber 342
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Apr 1850
Forename Alice Maud
Sex F
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname BROWN
MotherSurname
Abode Calverton
FatherOccupation Labourer

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above useful link)