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Tracing family of VIOLET VERA KIMBER

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jaymee

jaymee Report 10 Aug 2015 22:36

I'm trying to help my mum trace her family. Unfortunately her Mother died in !964 when she was only 7. My Grandmothers was born Doris J Kew (but was known as Peggy) in 1925.in the Pewsey , Wiltshire area She married Kenneth Ward in 1945, and had 5 children before dying in 1964.
We know that Doris had a older sister called Violet Vera, born in 1916 and she married Harry Kimber in 1936. Violet died in the district of Warminster in 1986.
If anyone has any information, in particular of doris and violets parents I would be most grateful. I have discovered that their mother had the maiden name of CHOULES Thank you

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Aug 2015 22:43

Do you not have the certs ?


Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Choules Edith M Kew Pewsey 5a 411

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Aug 2015 22:53

1911 no idea if right without certs

Name: Edith Maude Choules
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Step Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Clatford Park
Civil Parish: Wilcot
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: China Cottage, East Stowell, Near Pewsey, Wilts
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Pewsey
Registration District Number: 251
Sub-registration district: Netheravon
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 12046
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Broomham 40
Eliza Jane Broomham 35
Edith Maude Choules 15
William George Choules 18
Hilda Elizabeth Jane Broomham 10
Robert Frank Broomham 8
Eric John Broom Broomham 5
Eli Broomham 3
Ruth Broomham 2

jaymee

jaymee Report 10 Aug 2015 23:10

Thank you Glitterbaby, only started looking tonight. This has been a massive help, through this we have now looked on censuses, rather than for certs on individuals to help us go back further. Again thank you so much

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Aug 2015 23:11

Other siblings of Doris and Violet

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Kew Phyllis M Choules Pewsey 5a 256

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Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Kew Albert J Choules Pewsey 5a 226


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Aug 2015 23:16

More than one possible birth for Edith

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Choules Edith Maud Hungerford 2c 244 Scan available - click to view

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Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Choules Edith Maud Marlbro' 5a 97


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Aug 2015 23:20

This might be her death, which shows the census posted byGB would be correct, but you need her marriage cert to confirm the details


Name:Edith Maud Kew
Birth Date:23 Mar 1896
Date of Registration:Mar 1971
Age at Death:75
Registration district:Devizes
Inferred County:Wiltshire
Volume:7c
Page:2111


Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Aug 2015 23:45

Pure guess based only on location

First name(s) ALBERT H
Last name KEW
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1891
Age 73
Death quarter 4
Death year 1964
District DEVIZES
County Wiltshire
Volume 7C
Page 458
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007


You really do need some certs

Andrew

Andrew Report 11 Aug 2015 08:49

Strange, no trace of the Mr Kew Edith married anywhere. Another reason for the marriage cert


EDIT, a trawl of the images its Albert H Kew, so GB correct again

Andy

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Aug 2015 09:15

Order English/Welsh BMD certificates from here

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Each one will cost £9.25 and includes world wide P&P.
As you work through the forms, tick yes where it asks if you have the GRO reference. only put down exactly what has been shown on the index. If it doesn't match exactly, it may not be issued.

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 09:33

Possible Albert in 1901??

recorded as Bertie with parents Julia and Jacob Kew

Sorry don't have access to census images so can't post.

Edit: Looks like the same Albert (born Beechingstoke) in 1911 census living in Hursley Hampshire

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 09:42

Birth:

Births Mar 1891
Kew Albert Henry Devizes 5a 105
Kew Albert Henry Devizes 5a 106



Marriage:

Marriages Jun 1888
CROSS Julia Fanny Devizes 5a 163
CROSS Julia Young Devizes 5a 163
Kew Jacob Devizes 5a 163

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Aug 2015 09:46

Welcme to the boards Jaymee.

The son William is a visitor with Albert E and Ann Dowse on the 1901 census.

Transcribed as "Chowles"

William G Chowles in the 1901 England Census
Name:William G Chowles
Age:3
Estimated birth year:abt 1898
Relation to Head:Visitor
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Wanborough, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish:St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish:St John and St Mary
Town:Devizes

Household Members:

Albert E Dowse 25
Ann Dowse 27
William G Chowles 3


It seems Ann is William's mothers sister.


Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
Dowse Albert Edward Pewsey 5a 335
Nash Ann Pewsey 5a 335

William and Edith's parents marriage....

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Choules George Pewsey 5a 313
Nash Eliza Jane Pewsey 5a 313

Eliza's second marriage...


Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Broomham Thomas Pewsey 5a 255
Choules Eliza Jane Pewsey 5a 255

Eliza and daughter Edith in 1901...

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Manningford Abbotts, Manningford Abbots, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England
Household Members
Eliza Choules Head Widow Female 25 1876 - -
Edith Choules Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Wiltshire, England
Hilda Choules Daughter - Female 6 months 1901 - Pewsey, Wiltshire, England

So Hilda's surname was Choules and not Broomham as stated on the 1911 census.


Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Choules Hilda Elizabeth J Pewsey 5a 135


Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Choules Hilda E J Goddard Pewsey 5a 357
Goddard Charles J Choules Pewsey 5a 357


Hilda Elizabeth J Goddard in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Hilda Elizabeth J Goddard
Birth Date:9 Sep 1900
Date of Registration:Jun 1975
Age at Death:74
Registration district:Southampton
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:20
Page:1483

Death of mother Eliza Jane...

Eliza J Broomham in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Eliza J Broomham
Birth Date:abt 1876
Date of Registration:Jun 1922
Age at Death:46
Registration district:Marlborough
Inferred County:Wiltshire
Volume:5a
Page:96


Prickles. :o)

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 09:47

Jacob Kew with parents and siblings in 1881 census


Jacob Kew
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Jacob Kew
Age (Original) 14
Gender Male
Birth Year 1867
Birthplace Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Marital Status Single
Occupation Assist In Dairy
Address The Sands
Event Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2060 / 19
Page Number 10
Household


Birthplace
William Kew Head M 48 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
Mary Kew Wife F 44 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
John Kew Son M 18 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
Jacob Kew Son M 14 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
William Kew Son M 11 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
Clara Kew Daughter F 8 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England
Sarah J Kew Daughter F 6 Woodboro, Wiltshire, England



and 1871 census


William Kew
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name William Kew
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
Enumeration District 9
Gender Male
Age 38
Marital Status Married
Occupation Farm Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1833
Birthplace Woodborough, Wiltshire



Birthplace
William Kew Head M 38 Woodborough, Wiltshire
Mary Kew Wife F 33 Stoke, Wiltshire
John Kew Son M 8 Woodborough, Wiltshire
Jacob Kew Son M 4 Woodborough, Wiltshire
William Kew Son M 1 Woodborough, Wiltshire
Thomas Bailey Boarder M 23 Alton Priors, Wiltshire

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 09:51

possible marriage:

Name William Kew
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1861
Registration District Devizes
County Wiltshire
Event Place Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Volume 5A
Page 163
Line Number 8

William Kew probably married one of the following people
Name William Rew
Name Mary Rumbel


Possible baptism for William Kew???



William Kew
England Births and Christenings
Name William Kew
Gender Male
Christening Date 07 Apr 1833
Christening Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name John Kew
Mother's Name Elizabeth


It looks like William Kew is living with his grandmother Ann Kew in the 1841/1851 and 1861 census and there are these burials which could be his parents

St Mary Magdalene Woodborough Wiltshire

18/9/1835 John Kew aged 27

23/5/1837 Elizabeth Kew aged 31

and

Possible marriage for John & Elizabeth Kew


John Kew
mentioned in the record of John Kew and Elizabeth Hibberd
Name John Kew
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Hibberd
Event Date 27 Dec 1832
Event Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England


Possible baptism for Elizabeth Hibberd:


Elizabeth Hibberd
England Births and Christenings
Name Elizabeth Hibberd
Gender Female
Christening Date 18 Aug 1805
Christening Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name George Hibberd
Mother's Name Susanna





Possible Rumbel/Rumble line


Mary Rumble in 1851 census recorded as Mary Rumbold daughter of Kezia and John Rumbold with a correction of surname to Rumble
In 1861 census mary is recorded with John and Thriza (mistake for Kezia)


Marriage:

Keziah Sandford
mentioned in the record of John Rumble and Keziah Sandford
Name John Rumble
Spouse's Name Keziah Sandford
Event Date 12 Nov 1823
Event Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England


Possible baptism for Kezia:


Kezia Sandford
England Births and Christenings
Name Kezia Sandford
Gender Female
Christening Date 06 Apr 1806
Christening Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name Thos. Sandford
Mother's Name Bathia


John & Kezia in 1871 census:


John Rumble
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name John Rumble
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Beechingstoke, Beechingstoke, Wiltshire, England
Enumeration District 11
Gender Male
Age 65
Marital Status Married
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1806
Birthplace Beechingstoke, Wiltshire


Birthplace
John Rumble Head M 65 Beechingstoke, Wiltshire
Kezia Rumble Wife F 65 Woodborough, Wiltshire



Possible death for John:

Deaths Dec 1878
RUMBEL John 73 Devizes 5a 60




Kezia in 1881 census:

Name: Keziah Rounsel
[Keziah Rumble]
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Woodbro, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Beeching Stoke
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: Broad Street
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Agc Laborer
Registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2041
Folio: 57
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Keziah Rounsel 74
Emily Gillet 9

Death for Kezia(h) :

Deaths Dec 1893
Rumble Keziah 86 Devizes 5a 64


Marriage for Thomas & Bathia:


Thomas Sandford
mentioned in the record of Thomas Sandford and Bathia Bartlett
Name Thomas Sandford
Spouse's Name Bathia Bartlett
Event Date 16 Oct 1802
Event Place Woodborough, Wiltshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Aug 2015 11:00

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(worth a look on above link)

Chris :)

Andrew

Andrew Report 11 Aug 2015 11:31

Death for Albert

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1964 (>99%)
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KEW ALBERT H 73 DEVIZES 7C 458


Andy

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 12:15

Birth for Julia:

Births Dec 1865
Cross Julia Fanny Devizes 5a 84



Possible 1871 census: ???


Julea Cross
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Julea Cross
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Great Cheverell, Wiltshire, England
Enumeration District 2
Gender Female
Age 6
Relationship to Head of Household Granddaughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1865
Birthplace Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire
Entry Number 23
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/1910/0044
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
William Cross Head M 65 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire
Feanez Cross Wife F 60 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire
Lusia Cross Daughter F 28 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire
James Cross Grandson M 8 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire
Julea Cross Granddaughter F 6 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire<<<<<<<<<<<
Emma Cross Granddaughter F 2 Cheverell Magna, Wiltshire



Possibly Feanez is mistranscribed and should read Fanny


marriage???


William Cross
mentioned in the record of William Cross and Fanny Bond
Name William Cross
Spouse's Name Fanny Bond
Event Date 07 Jul 1828
Event Place Great Cheverell,Wiltshire,England


Possible baptism for William Cross???


William Cross
England Births and Christenings
Name William Cross
Gender Male
Christening Date 24 Nov 1803
Christening Place Great Cheverell, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name William Cross
Mother's Name Elizabeth




Possible baptism for Fanny Bond???

Fanny Bond
England Births and Christenings
Name Fanny Bond
Gender Female
Christening Date 14 Apr 1811
Christening Place Great Cheverell, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name Mark Bond
Mother's Name Ann

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 Aug 2015 12:18

Possible Julia in 1881 census???



Julia Cross
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Julia Cross
Age (Original) 16
Gender Female
Birth Year 1865
Birthplace Great Chovorele, Wiltshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Marital Status Single
Occupation Domestic (Servant)
Address Prospect Place 1 Tottenham Lane
Event Place Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 1374 / 24
Page Number 41
Household

Birthplace
Richard Watkins Head M 21 Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Alexandra Brooks Servant F 19 Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Frank Rhodes Lodger Head M 25 Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Eliza Rhodes Wife Lodger F 23 Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Ethel Rhodes Daughter F 0 Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Julia Cross Servant F 16 Great Chovorele, Wiltshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
George Gilbert Servant M 19 Great Chovorele, Wiltshire, England

jaymee

jaymee Report 12 Aug 2015 20:53

Thank you all very much for the help and information you have given. I'm blown away with what i have found out, and my Mum has started talking more and more about her childhood, which is great to listen to.
Our next step is to get some certificates and make a family book.

Jaymee :-)