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Need help! Trying to find info on Richard Thomas

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Aug 2015 09:22

Julie - does Richard's age on his marriage record tally with the age on the service records? I have sometimes found ages on service records to be inaccurate.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Aug 2015 07:58

Which of the deaths in 1959 is your Richard? If the one in Bangor Reg District he was aged 72 when he died which would mean DOB would be around 1887.

Julie

Julie Report 9 Aug 2015 20:03

Hi Malyon, thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately I don't think that birth record is the one im looking for, according to his WW1 record he signed up on the 1st September 1914 and was 24yr 41days old, that would put his birthday about the 22nd July, so he wouldn't of been registered until the 3rd quarter...

Julie

Julie Report 9 Aug 2015 19:07

Information from the marriage certificate;
address at the time was, 6 Hedsor street Holyhead, Richard's occupation was a general labourer as was his father.. thanks

Frances

Frances Report 9 Aug 2015 14:13

If they married in church in Holyhead wouldn't the banns show his place of residence before marriage?

malyon

malyon Report 7 Aug 2015 19:22


Richard Thomas
United Kingdom, World War I Service Records
Name Richard Thomas
Event Type Military Service
Event Year 1914
Age 24
Military Company/Regiment Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Military Regiment 13109
Military Battalion 9th Battalion
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace Bangor, Caernarfonshire, Wales

malyon

malyon Report 7 Aug 2015 19:17


Richard Thomas
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Richard Thomas
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1890
Registration District Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Event Place Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Volume 11B
Page 4?1
Line Number 321

Dea

Dea Report 7 Aug 2015 18:27

Occupation of his father please !!!

Dea x

Julie

Julie Report 7 Aug 2015 17:43

Thank you everyone for trying :)
yes, 'mike' that is the WW1 record, Ive also found the records everyone else has mentioned but unfortunately those 'Richard's' wernt born in Bangor, ?? I cant remember his address or occupation at the time of his marriage but I do remember checking them ages ago and found nothing, I'll have to ask my mother in law to dig them out again, lastly, were not aware of any siblings or any other members of his family (except the father mentioned above)
Thank you so much to everyone for your replies

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Aug 2015 17:24

The military record says he was 24 yrs 41 days old on 1st Sept 1914, which would make his birthday 21st July 1890, if my arithmetic's correct.

These are the only Richard Thomas births in Wales registered in the right quarter of 1890:

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
Thomas Richard Haverfordwest 11a 1086
Thomas Richard Llanelly 11a 930.

He only served 40 days, being discharged as "unlikely to become an efficient soldier" because of deafness.

Before joining up he was a labourer.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Aug 2015 17:23

Is this the military record you refer to ?


Name:
Richard Thomas

Birth Date:
abt 1890

Birth Place:
Bangor, Camawon

Marriage Date:
4 May 1914

Marriage Place:
Holyhead

Age:
24

Document Year:
1914

Regimental Number:
13109

Regiment Name:
The Royal Welsh (Welch) Fusiliers

Form Title:
Short Service Attestation


Family Members:

Richard Thomas Self (Head)
Maggie Roberts Spouse
David Richard Thomas Child

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Aug 2015 17:10

????

[EDIT: No, this one's married. Married to Kate for 10 months; daughter Jennie]

Richard Thomas
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Richard Thomas
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Ymwelydd (Visitor)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Llanidan, Anglesey, Wales
Civil Parish: Trefdraeth
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Bodorgan
Marital Status: Priod (Married)
Occupation: Gweithiwr Ar Farm
Registration district: Bangor
Registration District Number: 631
Sub-registration district: Beaumaris
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 34486
Household Members:
Name Age
John Williams 46
Jane Williams 45
Richard Thomas 22
Kate Thomas 21
Mary Williams 12
Maggie Williams 10
Johny Williams 8
Emily Williams 7
Jennie Thomas 5 Wks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Aug 2015 17:09

Does your m-in-law know if he had siblings, and if so, what their names were?

Richard Thomas
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Richard Thomas
Age in 1901: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Richard Thomas
Mother's name: Margaret Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Trefdraeth, Anglesey, Wales
Civil Parish: Newborough St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Newborough St Peter
County/Island: Anglesey
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Carnarvon
Sub-registration district: Llanidan
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 5275
Folio: 47
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Thomas 41
Margaret Thomas 37
Jane Thomas 14
Miriam Thomas 13
Richard Thomas 11
Maggie E Thomas 8
Ellen C Thomas 4

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Aug 2015 16:09

Father's occupation?

Groom's address on marriage cert?

Groom's occupation?

Julie

Julie Report 7 Aug 2015 16:06

Hi, I'm trying to find information on my mother in laws grandfather, His name is Richard Thomas b. 1890 - 1959 Bangor North Wales, He married Margaret Ellen Roberts in 1914 in Holyhead Anglesey (she was b.1889 in Holyhead d.1967 Bangor North Wales) Although he married in holyhead they both set up home back in Bangor, during the 1920's I belive they lived in the Glanadda area, possibly Caernarfon road or hendrewen, then during the 1930's moved to Trem Elidir, according to his marriage certificate his father was also called Richard Thomas, I did find a WW1 record but that didnt offer anything new to go on, I cant seem to pin point where in Bangor he may have come from or which family he may belong to, nor can I narrow down anything in regards to the 1911 census or birth, Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? can anyone shed some light on the whereabouts of Richard Thomas prior to to his marriage??
Many thanks