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Josiah Dean born 1785

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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jul 2015 16:05

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1258152

(your other info. on above)


Below could perhaps be Wombourne one?...

1871 (Find My Past)
William Deans Head (Widr) Male 74 1797 Staffordshire, England Ag Labourer
Joseph Deans Boarder (Unm) Male Staffordshire, England Ag. Labourer
Street Windmill Bank
Parish Wombourn
County Staffordshire
Registration district Wolverhampton
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2929
Folio 18
Page 29

Chris :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Jul 2015 15:26

It could be anything; father, brother?

Unfortunately it's not an uncommon name :-(

Jude

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 12 Jul 2015 15:15

I think your probably right about Wombourn it is a long way from Staffordshire, Endon. However, there appears to be a lot of Dean's in Endon, Norton in the Moors area. I had already got the marriage certificate and was wondering if John Dean, one of the witnesses could be his father, does anyone know if this could be possible. Who were witnesses back then? Much appreciating your time and info x

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Jul 2015 15:02

I still think Wombourne is a red herring...

Burslem is 4.5 miles from Endon...

Endon is 5.2 miles from Leek and 2.6 miles from Norton-in-the-moors

Wombourne is 50+ miles from all of them

Jude

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jul 2015 14:53

County Staffordshire
Place Wombourne
Church St. Benedict Biscop
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 04 Dec 1796
GroomForename John
GroomSurname DEAN
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname GILES
WitnessOneForename George
WitnessOneSurname DEANS
WitnessTwoForename Elizabeth
WitnessTwoSurname EVANS
Notes Surname of first witness not certain


Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Wombourne
Church St. Benedict Biscop
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 14 Apr 1822
Forename Sarah
Surname DEAN
Age 62
Abode Wombourne


(if relating, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Jul 2015 12:52

Josiah is listed in the poll books for Pirehill North- Parish of Norton in the Moors in 1832- there also a Richard Dean listed- wondered if this could be a brother, or father to Josiah, as I see he also has a son Richard listed in the 1841 census.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Heakley, Norton in the Moors, Leek, Staffordshire, England
Josiah Dean Male 50 1791 Staffordshire, England
Nanncy Dean Female 50 1791 Staffordshire, England
Sarah Dean Female 25 1816 Staffordshire, England
Richard Dean Male 20 1821 Staffordshire, England
Josiah Dean Male 20 1821 Staffordshire, England
Joseph Dean Male 15 1826 Staffordshire, England
Eliza Dean Female 15 1826 Staffordshire, England
Mary Dean Female 10 1831 Staffordshire, England
Ann Hanley Female 15 1826 Staffordshire, England
Enoch Procter Male 15 1826 Staffordshire, England
------------------------------------------------------------------------

UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893
Pirehill North- Parish of Norton in the Moors 1832

Richard Dean Occupier of Farm- Norton Hall
Josiah Dean Occupier of Farm- Heakley Hall
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Staffordshire Advertiser - Saturday 02 August 1856
On the 17th ult. at Norton-in-the-Moors, after a long and lingering illness borne with Christian fortitude, Josiah, 3rd son of Josiah Dean, Heakley Hall, aged 36.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Jul 2015 12:34

Wombourne is nearly fifty miles from Endon - I would say unlikely to be the same family?

They married in Leek St Edward which is about 5 miles from Endon - one of the witnesses was John Dean (the other Francis Hilleard)

Jude

malyon

malyon Report 12 Jul 2015 12:29

John Deans
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Deans
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Jul 1843
Christening Place: WOMBOURN,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Joseph Deans
Mother's Name: Mary

malyon

malyon Report 12 Jul 2015 12:25

John Deans
mentioned in the record of John Deans and Mary Clark
Name: John Deans
Spouse's Name: Mary Clark
Event Date: 27 Oct 1777
Event Place: Wombourn, Stafford, England

malyon

malyon Report 12 Jul 2015 12:22

other children for mary and john

John Deans
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 6 February 1780 WOMBOURN, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
father: John Deans
mother: Mary

Dennis Deans
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 20 September 1784 Womborn, Stafford, England
residence: 1784 Wombourn, Stafford, England
father: John Deans
mother mary


Joshua Deans
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 21 April 1785 Womborn, Stafford, England
residence: 1785 Wombourn, Stafford, England
father: John Deans
mother: Mary

Mary Deans
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 12 August 1781 Womborn, Stafford, England
residence: Wombourn, Stafford, England
father: John Deans
mother mary


HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Jul 2015 11:23

Do you have the marriage "certificate"? It's on FMP. If you don't let me know and I will PM it if you haven't

Jude

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Jul 2015 11:21

Name: Josiah Dean
County: Staffordshire
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Sub-District: 1 Norton
Parish: Norton In The Moors
Registration District: Leek
Age: 75
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Burslem, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 12 Jul 2015 09:56

Hi thanks for your info. In the line I am researching there are a few ancestors with the name Josiah and Joshua and at some point they seem to swap names. Eg. Josiah becomes Joshua on a census, but the details such as place of birth and date are correct for that person. Is this a common occurrence?

As I see the info you have provided has his year of birth as spot on, but his name has changed from Josiah to Joshua which is something I keep seeing on this ancestry line.

I hope this makes sense again info or advice from yourself is much appreciated x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Jul 2015 08:50

????


Joshua Deans
England Births and Christenings
Name: Joshua Deans
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1785
Birthplace: Womborn, Stafford, England
Father's Name: John Deans
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03903-9 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1517739 , Reference ID: item 4

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Jul 2015 08:43

Well you won't find birth certs before 1837 when official registration started

The best you can hope for is a baptism


Have you looked on Family Search site for him :-)

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 12 Jul 2015 08:41

Can anyone help me find Josiah Dean's (born 1785 died 1874) parents? He was born according to the census info in Woodhead, Burslem, Endon Staffordshire. He married Nancy Sant in 1812 in Leek and died in 1874, buried Norton Le Moors. I am unable to locate any birth certificate details and therefore cannot find his mother or father. Any info or advice would be most gratefully received :-) thanks x