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I am looking for a Moore family who travelled to the USA in between 1884. &1885. Head. John Moore 1845 Scotland, Wife Mary b St Helens Lancs and possibly 4 children, Margaret W, Moore Bernard J, Moore, Mary T. Moore and Walter Henry Moore. Occ of John ---!Joiner or Carpenter. Last seen in 1881 St Helens Lancashire.. I have tried finding them but another pair of eyes or ideas would be appreciated. Many thanks

For our reference:

John Moore
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Moore
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Moore
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Windle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 44 Stanhope Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Joiner
Registration district: Prescot
Sub registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3732
Folio: 107
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Moore 37
Mary Moore 22
Margaret W. Moore 12
Mary A. Moore 9
Mary T. Moore 7
Walter H. Moore 5
John Moore 1

Looks like Walter didn't go with them - or if he did, he came back again:

Walter Moore

in the 1901 England Census
Name: Walter Moore
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Moore
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Hulme St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3703
Folio: 111
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Moore 25
Elizabeth Moore 27
Elsie F Moore 4
Ada Moore 3
(and 4 boarders)



Walter Moore
in the 1911 England Census

Name: Walter Moore
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Longfellow St Bootle Lanc
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dock Laborer
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 22431
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Moore 35
Elizabeth Moore 35

Too early for online emigration records

Have you looked at the Ellis Island website?

Or at familysearch?

Just in case (though not relevant to John's query, and YOB 4 years out) :


Mary Teresa Moore

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mary Teresa Moore
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 74
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 20 May 1954
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Cilicia
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 165934

A missionary, going to Presentation Convent, Matlock.

Many thanks AG, yes this is the family in 1881 . I know that John Moore b Scotland, recorded as being in America when his daughter Mary Ann Moore was admitted to a deaf and dumb school in Boston Spa in 1885 , but really am unsure if he went with his family or on his own

I can't see the family in the U.S. census at all.

is this john moore the son

John Moore
United States Census, 1940
Name: John Moore
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 1, Dickson City, Dickson City Borough, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Last Place of Residence: Same House
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
John Moore Head M 60 England
Cordelia Moore Wife F 58 Pennsylvania
Cordelia Moore Daughter F 30 Pennsylvania
Jack Moore Son M 27 Pennsylvania
Lester Moore Son M 18 Pennsylvania

1871 Census gives different places of birth for Mary and the children.....



John Moore

England and Wales Census, 1871

Name: John Moore
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Scotland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Asaph
Sub-District: St Asaph
Parish: Maenefa
County: Denbighshire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
John Moore Self M 26 Scotland
Mary Jane Moore Wife F 36 Llanasa
John Thomas Moore Son M 3 Llanasa
Margt Winefred Moore Daughter F 2 Llanasa
Barnard Joseph Moore Son M 0 Llanasa

Mary Jane was his 1st wife who he married in Wales,She died in 1878 in St Helens. John b 1880 was he son to 2nd wife Mary. Re the post of John Moore in the 1940 census Pennsylvania , that could be him. I see Jacqueline posted too early for online records so that means I will be unable to find the family. I wonder if John and Mary only took their son John and children from 1st marriage left behind in England

Re 1871 census. 1st child John Thomas b 1868 found a death for one in 1873 Llanasa . There was no John Thomas b1868 with them in the 1881 census in St Helens Lancs

What happened to Bernard Joseph...????






Bernard Joseph Moore

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name: Bernard Joseph Moore
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1870
Registration District: Holywell
County: Flintshire
Event Place: Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
Volume: 11B
Page: 249
Line Number: 101

Just don't know about Bernard Joseph I am unable to find him, in fact have been unable to find his siblings except so far sister Mary Ann b1872 Holywell who was in St John's deaf and dumb school Clifford Boston Spa. I have rung the school and yesterday had a reply, she was admitted in 1885 from Prescott. Father. John Moore stated in America occ Joiner, Mother Jane Moore dead ( her name was Mary Jane so the info all tied up with father John in the 1871 and 1881 census. And her mother dying in 1878 Prescott. It is the proof of the Mary Ann I want and that this is her family. Have latched on to several Moores but this one I feel sure is the right one.

Looking up Walter Moore, the 1901 Walter Moore is not the same one as the 1911 Walter Moore. Looking up the marriages the dates and maiden names of the Elizabeth's are different. 1901 Walter born in Salford, 1911 Walter born in St Helens which is where Walter son of John and Mary Jane was born, he had only been married to Elizabeth for 9 months and states no children.I believe Bootle where they lived is near Liverpool, so if Walter did return from America that is where he would have arrived and it states his occ a Dock Worker, Liverpool being a port that's where he found employment.