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Annie Evans 1886 Southport

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mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jul 2015 18:29

As an aside, it would have been better if you'd copied and pasted the 1911 transcription into your original post (which everyone could read), rather than the URL pointing to it (which only Ancestry subscribers can read).

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jul 2015 18:21

This is a guess - you need James's m.cert to confirm his dad

1881
Civil Parish: Birkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 31 Chatham Rd
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub registration district: Formby
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 3745 Folio: 114 Page Number: 36

William Tinsley 45 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Head M Farm Labourer
Ann Tinsley 44 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Wife M Farm Labourer Wife
Mary Tinsley 17 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Daughter Domestic
Elizabeth Tinsley 13 Sport, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Francis Tinsley 11 Sport, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Henry Tinsley 8 Sport, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
William Tinsley 6 Sport, Lancashire, England Son Scholar
Harriett Tinsley 1 Bdale, Lancashire, England
(not transcribed)

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBNY-J1B


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TINSLEY William JOHNSON Ann St. Peter and St. Paul, Ormskirk Preston CE14/3/273

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 24 Aug 1858 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Tinsley - 22 Labourer Bachelor
Ann Johnson - (X), 22 Spinster of Scarisbrick
Groom's Father: Henry Tinsley, Labourer
Bride's Father: James Johnson, Farmer
Witness: Henry Tinsley; Jas. Dixon
Married by Banns by: James T. Waring
Register: Marriages 1854 - 1864, Page 137, Entry 273
Source: LDS Film 1849665

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: [I've appended the quarter of rego]
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1859q4 TINSLEY James Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/8/15
1862q2 TINSLEY Henry Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/9/2
1863q3 TINSLEY Mary Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/9/43
1865q4 TINSLEY Elizabeth Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/10/7
1867[68q1] TINSLEY Elizabeth North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/22/391
1869q4 TINSLEY Frances North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/25/196
1871q4 TINSLEY Henry North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/28/5
1873q3 TINSLEY Jane North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/30/416
1874[75q1] TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/33/47
1878q4 TINSLEY Peter North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/40/186
1878q4 TINSLEY Jane North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/40/187
1880q3 TINSLEY Harriet Formby North Sefton JOHNSON F/13/313
1882q3 TINSLEY Bertha Annie Formby North Sefton JOHNSON F/15/110

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
TINSLEY Henry 0 Scarisbrick Preston SCA/5/8

Deaths Jun 1862 (>99%)
Tinsley Henry Ormskirk 8b 401

Deaths Dec 1866 (>99%)
Tinsley Elizabeth 1 Ormskirk 8b 533

Deaths Dec 1874 (>99%)
TINSLEY Jane 1 Ormskirk 8b 665

Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%)
TINSLEY Jane 0 Ormskirk 8b 613

Deaths Sep 1879 (>99%)
Tinsley Peter 0 Ormskirk 8b 436


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LancsBMD usually indexes by year of event, whereas FreeBMD indexes by quarter of registration.
In England, one has 6w to rego a birth, so one often finds late December births rego'ed in the following quarter (and year). E.g.,

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
...
KELLETT William Alfred Ormskirk 8b 755
Thorne Laura Agnes Ormskirk 8b 755
TINSLEY William Ormskirk 8b 755
Wareing Hugh Ormskirk 8b 755

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
KELLETT William Alfred North Meols North Sefton BROMLEY NM/33/56
TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/33/47

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THORNE Laura Agnes North Meols North Sefton SIMPSON NM/33/50
WAREING Hugh North Meols North Sefton RIMMER NM/33/53

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jul 2015 13:28

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1880 TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton ROBINSON NM/43/228
1881 TINSLEY James Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/14/321
1883 TINSLEY Jenny North Meols North Sefton ROBINSON NM/48/486
1884 TINSLEY Henry Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/16/388
1885 TINSLEY Ann Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/17/344
1887 TINSLEY Nellie Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/19/275
1891 EVANS Peter Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/23/34

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TINSLEY James ROBINSON Ann Southport Holy Trinity North Sefton C14/3/12

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TINSLEY Ann EVANS George Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/1/398

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TINSLEY Ann BOURKE Thomas Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/3/271

The latter two m.certs are available via a search at:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2576

EDIT
Maybe:
Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%)
Tinsley James 26 Ormskirk 8b 600

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jul 2015 16:16

Jane Houghton

in the 1891 England Census
Name: Jane Houghton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife of Head (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Birkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ormskirk
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3033
Folio: 20
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Houghton 26
Annie Vickers 6 - daughter (Houghton) born 1885 Ormskirk <<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas P Vickers 3 - son ( Houghton on image)
Mary A Vickers 1 daughter - (Houghton on image)

Mistranscription - the Vickers family live next door.



????
Jane Evans
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Jane Evans
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Servant (Employee)
Gender: Female
Where born: New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: Victoria Road "Rockland"
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3589
Folio: 109
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Lightfoot 50
Elizabeth Milburn 63
Sarah Salvage 25
Jane Evans 17
James Hosack 67
Oliver Shawcross 21
Henry A. Rowe 57


The 1911 on the tree posted by Maddie doesn't seem to be on Ancestry.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jul 2015 15:59

In case tree info posted above by Maddie is correct, this would be her mother's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
EVANS Jane Ormskirk 8b 1168a
HOUGHTON William Henry Ormskirk 8b 1168a


Possibilities for Annie's birth:

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
EVANS Ann Elizabeth Ormskirk 8b 767

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Evans Ann Ormskirk 8b 800

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
Evans Annie Ormskirk 8b 870

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Jul 2015 12:10

am posting this just in case the 1911 census you posted is not correst
from a tree on ancestry

Annie Evans
Birth
1885
Mar
Southport, Lancashire, England
1 Source
Residence
1891
Age: 6
Birkdale, Lancashire, England
1 Source
Residence
1901
Age: 16
Birkdale, Lancashire, England
1 Source
Marriage
1906
Jun
Age: 21
Lancashire, United Kingdom
Census
1911
Age: 26
6 Shaftesbury Avenue, Birkdale, Southport, Lancs. England
Living as boarder with twin sons.
1 Source
Death
1963
Sep
Age: 78
Southport, Lancashire, England

Spouse & Children
Albert Howard
1886 –

Private

William Albert Howard
1907 – 1908

Thomas Herbert Howard
1909 – 1994

John Albert Howard
1909 - 1911

parents
Jane Evans
1865 – 1954

1901

Name: Annie Evan
[Annie Evans]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Stepdaughter (Daughter)
Gender: Female
Mother: Jane E Houghton
Birth Place: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Formby
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3533
Folio: 149
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Houghton 35
Jane E Houghton 35
Thomas P Houghton 1
Margaret A Houghton 11
William A Houghton 9
Annie Evan 16

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jul 2015 16:23

Evans wasn't her father...........census records show that

If your relative was Annie Evans at birth, she isn't the woman in the 1911 census

How carefully have you researched her? How did you work back to her?

Have you actually found her birth (or even looked for it)?

Also, please look at your other recent thread before you disappear...........

Mark

Mark Report 3 Jul 2015 16:16

Thankyou for your help. I have the name Evans from parents details. I looked on freebmd for possible marriage. Back monday, as i am away this weekend.

safc

safc Report 3 Jul 2015 16:00

????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TINSLEY Nellie Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/19/275

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jul 2015 15:52

Why do you think her birth name was Evans?


Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)

EVANS George Ormskirk 8b 913
TINSLEY Ann Ormskirk 8b 913

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 3 Jul 2015 15:50

Marriage
Ann Tinsley Spinster
Place Birkdale
Date 10/10/08
Address 19 Stamford Road Birkdale
Groom Thomas Bourke
Details obtained from Thomas' Military Record


safc

safc Report 3 Jul 2015 15:49


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19, Stamford Road, Birkdale, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Evans Head Married Male 42 1859 Fisherman New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Transcription
Ann Evans Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Southport, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Jenny Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Fish Hawker Southport, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Ann Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Not Employed Southport, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Nellie Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Southport, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Peter Evans Son Single Male 10 1891 - Birkdale, Lancashire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Jul 2015 15:44

1901
Name: Ann Tinsley
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Formby
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3534
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members:
Name Age
George Evans 42
Ann Evans 39
Jenney Tinsley 18
Ann Tinsley 15
Nellie Tinsley 13
Peter Evans 10

safc

safc Report 3 Jul 2015 15:40

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BOURKE Thomas TINSLEY Ann Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/3/271

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Jul 2015 15:40

?????????
Name: Thomas Bourke
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Ormskirk
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1148
Records on Page:
Name
Thomas Bourke
Cecil Evelyn Faulkner
Alice Maude Hoyle
Ann Tinsley -----------
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on 1911 brother in law is Tinsley

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Jul 2015 15:36

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Name: Annie Bourke
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 19 Stamford Road
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Ormskirk
Registration District Number: 457
Sub-registration district: Formby
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 22858
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bourke 30
Annie Bourke 25
William Tinsley 30
Peter Evans 19
Frank Finsley 7

safc

safc Report 3 Jul 2015 15:34

????


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
336 Hornby Street Liverpool, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Edward Evans Head Married Male General Labourer 40 1871 Lancashire Liverpool
Transcription
Annie Evans Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Southport
Transcription
Mary Evans Daughter - Female - 11 1900 Lancashire Liverpool
Transcription
Edward Evans Son - Male - 7 1904 Lancashire Liverpool
Transcription
John Evans Son - Male - 5 1906 Lancashire Liverpool
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George Evans Son - Male - 2 1909 Lancashire Liverpool

Mark

Mark Report 3 Jul 2015 15:24

I have posted the following census 1911 as it shows my relative
Annie Evans 1886 Southport but I struggling to find a marriage for her.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_22858_0491_03/21223110?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911England%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d21223110&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Many thanks