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Hi,
I am looking for the father of Robert Soulsby school teacher ,who married Edith Little 21st July 1926.Robert was born in 1895.Edith same year she died in 1930 with complication in child birth not sure wether child lived.his father George named on wedding certificate he was a marine engineer. Margaret E Soulsby was also on the certificate. Robert was living then at 255 Shields Road Edith lived at 223 Shields Road this i know was the Little Family Business (Newagent) George his father nt known where he was born or lived checked all records ut no luck other than the marriage cert can anyone help please

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
86 Church St Walker Ncle-On-Tyne, Walker, Northumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George W N Robinson Head Married Male Sexton 45 1866 Northumberland Newcastle
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Ruth Robinson Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Durham Shatton Colliery
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William Robinson Son - Male Errand Boy For Watchmaker 14 1897 Northumberland Walker
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George Samuel Robinson Son - Male School 12 1899 Northumberland Walker
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Alexander Smith Robinson Son - Male School 10 1901 Northumberland Walker
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Stephen Hardock Robinson Son - Male School 8 1903 Northumberland Newcastle
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Robert Soulsby Nephew - Male Pupil Teacher Student 15 1896 Northumberland Newcastle

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
120, Sycamore Street, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Archbold Head Married Male 56 1845 Blacksmith Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Eliza J Archbold Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
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Robert Soulsby Nephew - Male 5 1896 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
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Reginald E Telfer Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Mechanical Engineer Cumberland, England

As both census say he was born Newcastle, the last of the 3 possible birth reg is probably his

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Soulsby Robert Hexham 10b 334

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
Soulsby Robert Tynemouth 10b 306
Soulsby Robert Newcastle T. 10b 168 <<<<

May be relevant :-

1891

Name: Margaret E Soulsby
[Margaret E Robinson]
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Mother's name: Mary Robinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Civil Parish: Byker
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anthony
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4217
Folio: 53
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Robinson 65 born: Nenthead, Cumberland, England
xxxx George W H Robinson 25 Relation: Son (Child) [see 1911 census posted earlier]
Margaret E Soulsby 23
Stephen R Robinson 18 Relation: Grandson
George S Soulsby 3 Relation: Grandson


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Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
REEVES Charles Dunbar Newcastle T. 10b 101
xxxxx ROBINSON Margaret Eleanor Newcastle T. 10b 101
xxxxx Saulsby George Newcastle On Tyne 10b 101
Wasp Alice Newcastle T 10b 101

EDIT:- (just in case)
Name: George Soulsby
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1864
Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1886
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: Robert Soulsby
Spouse: Margaret Eleanor Robinson
FHL Film Number: 1469116
Reference ID: Item 3, p152

Name: Margaret Eleanor Robinson
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1867
Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1886
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: Samuel Robinson
Spouse: George Soulsby
FHL Film Number: 1469116
Reference ID: Item 3, p152

1901????

Name: G Solsby
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Margaret Solsby
Birth Place: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Walker
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Walker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 55 Shields Road West

Occupation: Mechanical Engineer

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4807
Folio: 78
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members:
Name Age
G Solsby 38
Margaret Solsby 34 Birth Place: Newcastle, Northumberland, 1867
G S Solsby 14
Pricilla Solsby 3

You say Margaret E Soulsby was named on the marriage cert.

In what capacity? Mother? Other relation? Witness?

Looking at a tree on Ancestry which features George Waugh Nattrass Robinson, it also gives an Eliza Jane Robinson b1856.

On that basis, Robert Soulsby's mother is likely to be one of their sisters

1871

Name: Eliza Jane Robinson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Samuel Robinson
Mother's name: Mary Robinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Northd, Newcastle
Civil Parish: Byker
Ecclesiastical parish: Byker St Anthony
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 5107
Folio: 44
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Robinson 44 (father noted on marriage I posted earlier was Samuel)
Mary Robinson 45
Elizabeth Robinson 19
Eliza Jane Robinson 15
Samuel H Robinson 13
James H Robinson 1 Year, 6 Months
John W Robinson 10
George W N Robinson 5 (see 1911 census again)
xxxxx Margaret C Robinson 3 xxxx
William H Robinson 10 Months


1st Marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
KELLY Luke Newcastle T. 10b 189
xxxx Matthews John Straughton Newcastle T. 10b 189
xxxx Robinson Eliza Jane Newcastle T. 10b 189
Tucker Mary Ann Newcastle T. 10b 189
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...........................strange, they seem to have married twice:-
First name(s) John Staughton
Last name Matthews
Name note -
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 17 Aug 1873
Marriage place St. Nicholas, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza Jane
Spouse's last name Robinson
Residence Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Place Newcastle-upon-Tyne
County Northumberland
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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2nd Marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
xxxx Archbold Thomas S.Shields 10a 923
Daniels Jonathan S. Shields 10a 923
xxxx MATTHEWS Eliza Jane South Shields 10a 923
Rodda Annie South Shields 10a 923


(see 1901 census posted earlier for this family)


(All seems to fit in so looking good)

PM from Ernest Frederick (have advised him to add replies on here, rather than to individuals):

Thanks for the message. Margaret E Soulsby was a witness along with Marjorie Jackson & David M.R Crombie & Joseph Little My great Grandfather on my fathers side of the family .

thanks i had forgotten that after a long break away from the family tree

If my info turns out to be correct, then George's father was called Robert, and he was born in South Shields, so this may also be relevant:-

First name(s) George
Last name Soulsby
Gender Male
Birth year 1864
Birth place -
Baptism year 1864
Baptism date 08 May 1864
Residence South Shields, Durham, England
Place South Shields
County Durham
Country England
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Soulsby
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Soulsby
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

no children born to marriage of robert and edith

Hi,
Thank for info so far i appeciate your time and effort, please if yocu get anymore just let me know.

thanks again

Thanks yvonne i know Edith Little wife of Roberts Soulsby died during child birth she was married for 4yrs died in 1930 i believe the baby also died I can't find any further details of the childs name, my father only told me about Edith.

Only Edith's death is showing on Freebmd - 4th Quarter Newcastle upon Tyne.

Unless a child draws breath, it isn't considered to have lived, therefore no birth or death certificate was issued. Nowadays parents can ask for their infant to be included in the Still Birth register to acknowledge that it existed. The SBR entry can only be accessed by next of kin

As they died at the same time, its possible that the still-born was buried with her. There might be some notation in the burial/parish records to this effect, if the priest was sympathetic.

Thanks for infor regarding still born not getting certificates in some cases i did not know this thanks again