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JohnFrederick Lyne

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Christopher

Christopher Report 28 Jun 2015 12:58

Hi im looking for any info on J F Lyne b 1867 London he is my Gt Grand Uncle,regards Chris

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 13:05

???

Name: John Frederick Lyne
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 112

Probate
Name: John Frederick Lyne
Probate Date: 20 Apr 1948
Death Date: 8 Mar 1948
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

Of 27 Joubert Street Battersea SW11 died at St Stephens Hospital Fulham road, Fulham. Admin to Elizabeth Lyne, widow. £243 4s 7d

EDIT - the above probate could be WRONG. See post 28 Jun 2015 @ 17:49 :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 13:10

A tree on Ancestry has his parents as

James Henry Lyne
1826 – 1880

Ann Bartington
1830 – 1895

Is this correct?

They have attached
1901 census
Name: John F Lyne
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Bessie S Lyne
Birth Place: Kensington, London, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude Kensal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 35 Droop? St
Occupation: Hosiery Packer
Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: North West Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 18
Folio: 49
Page Number: 42
Household schedule number: 316
Household Members:
Name Age
John F Lyne 34
Bessie S Lyne 31 - Paddington (Elizabeth?)
Mabel S Lyne 7 Paddington
Gladys C Lyne 1- Paddington

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 13:11

Welcome to the boards Christopher.

Exactly what information are you looking for?

??

John Frederick Lyne in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name:John Frederick Lyne
Registration Year:1891
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Paddington
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:132

Records on Page:

Bessie Sarah Barnes
John Frederick Lyne

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 13:22

Bessie Lyne in the 1911 England Census
Name:Bessie Lyne
Age in 1911:41
Estimated birth year:abt 1870
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:London, England, Middlesex
Civil Parish:Ilford
County/Island:Essex
Country:England
Street address:10 Khartoum Terrace, Green Lanes, Ilford
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Keeps Habashery shop
Registration district:Romford
Registration District Number:191
Sub-registration district:Ilford

Household Members:

Bessie Lyne 41
Mabel Lyne 17
Winifrede Lyne 9

(Married 19 years.......3 children born, 2 living, 1 had died)


Winifrede Bartington Lyne in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Winifrede Bartington Lyne
Registration Year:1901
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Paddington
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:82


Mabel Elizabeth Lyne in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Mabel Elizabeth Lyne
Registration Year:1893
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Paddington
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:56



Bessie Sarah Lyne in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Bessie Sarah Lyne
Probate Date:19 Apr 1962
Death Date:28 Feb 1962
Death Place:Middlesex, England
Registry:London, England

Of 2 West Walk Hayes Middlesex....Widow.

To Winifrede Bartington Barnes.....Widow

Effects: £468 1s 6d


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Name: Mabel Elizabeth Lyne
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1893
Father's name: John Frederick Lyne
Mother's name: Bessie Sarah Lyne
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

Of 21 Chippenham Rd - occ Packer

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 13:31

Winifrede's marriage.......

Winifrede B Lyne in the England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name:Winifrede B Lyne
Spouse Name: Leonard J Barnes
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1949
Registration district:Romford
Inferred County:Essex
Volume Number:5a
Page Number:1524

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 13:37

Kelly's directory about Bessie S Lyne

1906 + 1912
Name: Bessie Sarah Lyne (Draper)
Residence: 1906 - Essex, England
4 Khartoum Terrace, Woodgreen, Ilford

Elecoral Rolls
Name: Bessie Sarah Lyne
Year: 1931
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Finsbury
Street address: 47 Compton Buildings EC1
with Winfired Lyne

1932, 1933 and 1935 the same, but Winifred listed as Winifrede Burlington Lynes.

So were has hubby got to?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 28 Jun 2015 13:37

Best place to start looking for info is freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 13:42

May be

Name: John Frederick Lyne
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Dvr. L/Br
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery)
Regimental Number: 53818
Sub Unit: Royal Field Artillery
Previous Units: R F A 53818 Dvr.
Edit - not this one. The image says John Frederick Charles Lyne

Name: John Frederick Lyne
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps
Regimental Number: 393905
Previous Units: 067989 Pte R.A.S.C.

As you may know, over 70% of the full WW1 military records were destroyed during WW2 bombing. On that basis its unclear which if either record relates to John 1867

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 13:50

Name: John Fred Lyne
Age: 12
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1867
School: Fox School
Address: SILVER STREET
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Admission Date: 7 Jan 1880
Parent: James
Notes: Fox School (0502) opened 1880, rebuilt 1937
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV01/FOX/AD/001

Residence 6 Upper Uxbridge St
Left on 11 Jun 1880 to start work

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 13:50

John Lyne in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name:John Lyne
Year:1896
County or Borough:Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency:Chelsea
Street address:35 Droop street

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 14:00

The child who died.......

Gladys Constance Lyne in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Gladys Constance Lyne
Registration Year:1899
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Chelsea
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:370


Gladys Constance Lyne in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Gladys Constance Lyne
Estimated birth year:abt 1899
Registration Year:1904
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:5
Registration district:Paddington
District
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:61

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 14:10

I will send Christopher a PM to let him know he has received replies.

Prickles. :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 15:08

;-) :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 15:50

Parents marriage.......

(Both of full age.....Res for both........Kings Head Court)

James Henry Lyne in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name:James Henry Lyne (Batchelor) Painter
Spouse: Ann Bartington (Spinster)
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:30 Jul 1850
Parish:St Andrew Holborn
Borough:City of London
Father Name:Richard Lyne (Painter)
Spouse Father:William Bartington (Butcher)
Register Type:Parish Register
Witnesses: Richard J Warne and Ann Bartington
.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2015 16:35

I see Christopher has a tree on Ancestry with most of the above information.


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Jun 2015 17:49

Wondering if we need to reconsider the probate

Name: Elizabeth Lyne
Year: 1947
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Battersea
Street address: 27 Joubert Street
The other occupant is John F C Lyne

Possibly his birth

Name: John Frederick C Lyne
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 596

Marriage
Name: John Frederick Charles Lyne
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Age: 25
Spouse: Elizabeth Cook
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Jul 1913
Parish: St Stephen, Battersea
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: George Lyne
Spouse Father: Charles Cook
Register Type: Parish Register

So two different people. Back to square one :-|

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How about this death?

Name: John Lyne
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Dec 1947
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 726

If he'd reconciled with Bessie, its the right general area.