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17 Jun 2015 11:56 |
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Arthur Oldham 1839, Hyde, Cheshire, England married Harriet Woolly 08/09/1861 Portwood, Cheshire, England. Seeking any possible children of this marriage. Many thanks in advance...
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Found this possible death
Name:
Arthur Oldham
Birth Date:
abt 1840
Date of Registration:
Sep 1922
Age at Death:
82
Registration district:
Stockport
Inferred County:
Cheshire
Volume:
8a
Page:
12
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17 Jun 2015 12:00 |
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The only census I can positively identify them is this one
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1871&indiv=try&h=9711419
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17 Jun 2015 12:02 |
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1871
Arthur Oldham
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Oldham
Gender: Male
Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Bredbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Woodley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Hyde
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 3653
Folio: 59
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Oldham 32
Harriet Oldham 33
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17 Jun 2015 12:10 |
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From FMP, a look at the original gives places of birth and occupation to help in going froward
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hall Lane Woodley, Bredbury, Stockport, Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Arthur Oldham Head - Male 32 1839 - Hyde, Cheshire, England Wire ? Drawer
Harriet Oldham Wife - Female 33 1838 - Bredbury Cheshire, England Cotton Weaver
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17 Jun 2015 12:11 |
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Thank you Maddie
If correct they have Arthur born 10yrs later 1849 and not 1839 as it should be
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17 Jun 2015 12:13 |
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Is this your Arthur remarried on the 1911 census please?
Arthur Oldham
Age in 1911: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hyde
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Back Vernon Street Hyde
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Pedlar Or Rag & Coner
Registration district: Stockport
Registration District Number: 443
Sub-registration district: Hyde
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 21333
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Oldham 73
Mary Oldham 43. Married 13 years, 2 children
May Oldham 12
Harriet Oldham 9
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17 Jun 2015 12:14 |
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It could be rootgatherer I do not know sorry
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17 Jun 2015 12:17 |
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Maybe? Doesn't give marital status though.
1881
Arthur Oldham
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship to Head: Relative (Other)
Gender: Male
Where born: Godley, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hyde
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 52 House
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Cloth Presser
Registration district: Stockport
Sub registration district: Hyde
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3469
Folio: 36
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Oldham 31
Esther Oldham 38
Harold L. Oldham 4
Annie Oldham 2
Arthur Oldham 41
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17 Jun 2015 12:18 |
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???
Diocese of Chester parish registers of burials c1538-1910 Transcription
First name(s) HARRIET
Last name OLDHAM
Gender Female
Age 37
Birth year 1836
Death year -
Burial year 1873
Burial date 28 Nov 1873
Place BREDBURY
Residence Bredbury
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 6 p 102
Record group Part 1 - 1
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish burials 1538-1911
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17 Jun 2015 12:22 |
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marriage of an arthur to ester ???
ARTHUR
Last name OLDHAM
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1875
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ARTHUR OLDHAM married one of these people
HANNAH WESTWOOD, ESTHER SHUTTLEWORTH
District STOCKPORT
District number -
County Cheshire
Country England
Volume 8A
Page 177
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
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17 Jun 2015 12:27 |
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Possible marriage for the Arthur and Mary in the 1911; in the 1861 marriage he is just Arthur:
Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
Buffey Isaac Stockport 8a 166 Scan available - click to view
OLDHAM Arthur Joseph Stockport 8a 166 Scan available - click to view
Scott Kate Dransfield Stockport 8a 166 Scan available - click to view
Shugar Mary Jane Stockport 8a 166
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17 Jun 2015 12:32 |
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Only 1 Arthur Oldham shown b Stockport RD 1839 +/- 2 years
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) ARTHUR
Last name OLDHAM
Birth year 1839
Birth quarter 3
District STOCKPORT
County Cheshire
Country England
Volume 19
Page 248
Rootgathere's 1881 shows an Arthur of the right age b Godley, Cheshire (1871 says Hyde)
Stockport RD covered Godley and Bredbury and according to wikipedia Godley is a suburb in Hyde Gtr Manchester these days so close enough to hopefully be the same Arthur
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17 Jun 2015 12:34 |
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On the 1881, Arthur & Esther are shown as married and are living next door to a John Woolley, widower, and his children.
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17 Jun 2015 12:37 |
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The 1881 family in 1891:
Name:Harold Oldham
Age:14
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1877
Relation:Son (Child)
Father's name:Arthur Oldham
Mother's name:Esther Oldham
Gender:Male
Where born:Hyde, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish:Hyde
Ecclesiastical parish:Holy Trinity
Town:Hyde
County/Island:Cheshire
Country:England
Arthur Oldham 41
Esther Oldham 48
Harold Oldham 14
Annie Oldham 12
Charlotte Oldham 9
Lilian Oldham 6
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18 Jun 2015 10:04 |
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Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
Oldham Arthur Stockport 8a 177
Using http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
OLDHAM Arthur SHUTTLEWORTH Esther Stockport Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Stockport STR/29/15
[NB - that wasn't our Arthur - that was Fanny's Arthur]
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1839 OLDHAM Arthur Hyde Tameside FRITH HYD/4/2
1876 OLDHAM Harold Langworth Hyde Tameside SHUTTLEWORTH HYD/56/21
1878 OLDHAM Annie Hyde Tameside SHUTTLEWORTH HYD/59/92
1881 OLDHAM Charlotte Hyde Tameside SHUTTLEWORTH HYD/64/71
1885 OLDHAM Lilian Hyde Tameside SHUTTLEWORTH HYD/71/7
*** MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A SUB CAN SORT OUT THIS 1851 MOB: ***
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence View Image
Alexander Oldham Charlotte abt 1799 location relation city, Cheshire
Charlotte Oldham Alexander abt 1799 location relation city, Cheshire
Fanny Oldham abt 1824 location relation city, Cheshire
Lucy Ann Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1831 location relation city, Cheshire
Maria Frith Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1834 location relation city, Cheshire
Edwin Wilmot Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1837 location relation city, Cheshire
Arthur Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1840 location relation city, Cheshire
John Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1849 location relation city, Cheshire
Arthur Oldham Fanny abt 1850 location relation city, Cheshire
Maria Oldham Alexander,Charlotte abt 1851 location relation city, Cheshire
On Ancestry, just search:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8860
for piece 2154, folio 742 and they'll all pop up (with others)
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18 Jun 2015 10:40 |
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Mgnv's 1851
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Three Houses Gerrards, Werneth, Stockport, Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Oldham Head Married Male 52 1799 Schoolmaster Werneth, Cheshire, England
Charlotte Oldham Wife Married Female 52 1799 At Home Mellor, Derbyshire, England
Lucy Ann Oldham Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Cotton Weaver By Power, Hyde, Cheshire,
Maria Frith Oldham Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Cotton Weaver By Power, Hyde, Cheshire,
Edwin Wilmot Oldham Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Cotton Weaver By Power, Hyde, Cheshire,
Arthur Oldham Son - Male 11 1840 Errand Boy Hyde, Cheshire, England
John Oldham Son Married Male 27 1824 - Werneth, Cheshire, England
Fanny Oldham Daughter In Law Married
Arthur Oldham Grand Son - Male 1 1850 - Hyde, Cheshire, England
Maria Oldham Grand Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Werneth, Cheshire, England
Mary Ann Fiddler Servant - Female 12 1839 Nurse Haughton, Lancashire, England
William McConnell Visitor Unmarried Male 20 1831 Mechanic Bury, Lancashire, England
Registration district Stockport
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2154
Folio 742
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18 Jun 2015 19:02 |
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Greyghost - thanks for that.
Looks like Fanny's Arthur is our Arthur's nephew.
NB Werneth is in Hyde subdistrict
Marriages Mar 1850 (>99%)
Langworth Fanny Stockport 19 230
Oldham John Stockport 19 230
etc
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
OLDHAM John LANGWORTH Fanny Stockport, St Mary Stockport ST16/7/67
Births Mar 1850 (>99%)
Oldham Arthur Stockport 19 272
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
OLDHAM Arthur Hyde Tameside LARYWORTH HYD/17/60
[Maybe surname is mistranscribed]
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19 Jun 2015 07:19 |
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3P8-PT9
Name: Arthur Oldham
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 08 Sep 1861
Event Place: , Portwood, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Alexander Oldham
Spouse's Name: Harriet Woolley
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Woolly
GS Film number: 2105308 , Digital Folder Number: 004018998 , Image Number: 00505
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3G1-VQL
Name: John Oldham
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jan 1850
Event Place: St Mary, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Alexander Oldham
Spouse's Name: Fanny Langworth
Spouse's Father's Name: James Langworth
GS Film number: 2146028 , Digital Folder Number: 004019083 , Image Number: 00439
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3P4-B3W
Name: Edmund Evans
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Aug 1855
Event Place: , Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted): 23y
Father's Name: John Evans
Spouse's Name: Maria Frith Oldham
Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Oldham
GS Film number: 2103774 , Digital Folder Number: 004018947 , Image Number: 00853
Births Sep 1837 (>99%)
Wooley Harriett Stockport 19 154
Births Dec 1838 (>99%)
WOOLLEY Ellen Gee Stockport 19 223
Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Woolley Edwin Stockport 19 268
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1837 to 1839
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WOOLLEY Harriet Hyde Tameside GEE HYD/1/16
WOOLLEY Ellen Gee Hyde Tameside GEE HYD/2/86
WOOLLEY Edwin Hyde Tameside GEE HYD/6/21
Deaths Dec 1842 (>99%)
Woolley Phyllis Stockport 19 180
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
WOOLLEY Phyllis 32 Hyde Tameside HYD/5/100
*** MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A SUB CAN SORT OUT THIS 1841 MOB: ***
1841 [piece=118 book=3]
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Residence
Phillis Woolley abt 1811 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
Samuel Woolley abt 1816 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
Margaret Woolley abt 1836 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
Harriet Woolley abt 1838 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
Ellen Woolley abt 1839 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
Edwin Woolley abt 1841 Cheshire, England city, Cheshire
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