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1841 census lookup

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brummie46

brummie46 Report 14 Jun 2015 18:14

i have done my tree going back to my gr gr gr grandfather John.Rowley 1807c who was born in Weston Upon Trent. who wed a mary fletcher in 1829 in Shropshire. Now i am looking to go another generation back i.e. his parents.
John Rowley snr wed a Martha Price but date unknown.
I was wondering if they could be on 1841 census to which might show a little more information, whether siblings still at home or if they would still be alive in 1841.
Any help/search would be really appreciated
thanking you for your time

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 18:24

For Ref- this family?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Water Lane, Newport, Shropshire, England
John Rowley Male 30 1811 -
Mary Rowley Female 30 1811 Shropshire, England
Edwin Rowley Male 10 1831 Shropshire, England
Mary Rowley Female 9 1832 Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Rowley Female 4 1837 Shropshire, England
Hannah Rowley Female 2 1839 Shropshire, England
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Beaumaris Lane, Newport, Shropshire, England
John Rowley Head Married Male 46 1805 - Shirley Welsh, Staffordshire,
Mary Rowley Wife Married Female 48 1803 - Newport, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Rowley Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England
Theophilus Rowley Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England
Thomas Rowley Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England
John Turner Lodger Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar Longford, Shropshire, England
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I presume the place of birth is Shirleywich, Staffordshire.

Baptism:
Name: John Rowley
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1 Jul 1807
Baptism Place: Weston Upon Trent,Stafford,England
Father: John Rowley
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 421618

Where did you get the surname of John's Mum?

malyon

malyon Report 14 Jun 2015 18:29


John Rowley
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Rowley
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 01 Jul 1807
Christening Place: WESTON UPON TRENT,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Rowley
Mother's Name: Martha

brummie46

brummie46 Report 14 Jun 2015 18:35

sorry forgot to mention , brummie jan did some research for me previously but couldn't find any other info. Hence the reason for 1841 lookup for John snr. just incase if would show anything.
Or if could find any siblings of John 1807.

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 18:50

Baptism for possible brother, Richard:

Name: Richard Rowley
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1801
Christening Place: WESTON UPON TRENT,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Rowley
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03956-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 421618
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Possible for Richard 1841 with Mum, Martha:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Salt Works, Weston upon Trent, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Rd Rowley Male 40 1801 Staffordshire, England
Matty Rowley Female 70 1771 Staffordshire, England
Jas Rowley Male 14 1827 Staffordshire, England
Sarah Rowley Female 10 1831 Staffordshire, England
John Rowley Male 7 1834 Staffordshire, England
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Possibly Matty is Martha?? Richard is listed as widower in 1851 so it possible that she was with him in 1841 looking after his children.

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 18:55

This is Martha- again with daughter Mary in 1851:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Salt Works, Weston upon Trent, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
William Trigger Head Married Male 62 1789 Labourer Eccleshall, Staffordshire,
Mary Trigger Wife Married Female 61 1790 Labourer's Wife Croxton, Staffordshire,
Charles Trigger Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Agg Lab Weston, Staffordshire,
Martha Rowley Mother Widow Female 82 1769 Pauper Widow Dorrington, Staffordshire,
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Mary's baptism:
Name: Mary Rowley
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Apr 1790
Christening Place: ECCLESHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Rowley
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01336-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1470944 , Reference ID: item 19
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Mary's marriage:
First name(s) Mary
Last name Rowley
Banns year 1811
Marriage year 1811
Marriage date 22 Jun 1811
Denomination Anglican
Residence Weston on Trent
Place Weston on Trent, St Andrew
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Trigger (Treger/ Tregar on image)
Spouse's residence Weston on Trent
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D975/1/6
Register Type Marriage
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Mary's burial:
First name(s) Mary
Last name Trigger
Age 62
Birth year 1790
Death year 1852
Burial year 1852
Burial date 27 Oct 1852
Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew
Denomination Anglican
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D975/1/8
Page 54
Register Type Burial

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 19:07

This is possibly Martha's burial:
First name(s) Matty
Last name Rowley
Age 86
Birth year 1772
Death year 1858
Burial year 1858
Burial date 10 Jan 1858
Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew
Denomination Anglican
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D975/1/8
Page 59
Register Type Burial
Record set Staffordshire burials
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And John (snr) burial:

First name(s) John
Last name Rowley
Age 76
Birth year 1763
Death year 1839
Burial year 1839
Burial date 19 Jun 1839
Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew
Denomination Anglican
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D975/1/8
Page 35
Register Type Burial

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 19:19

Still not seeing where the surname Price comes from.

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 19:22

Shropshire marriages Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name Rowley
Marriage year 1789
Marriage date 14 Sep 1789
Marriage place Drayton in Hales
Denomination Anglican
Residence Drayton In Hales
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Perry
Spouse's residence Drayton In Hales
County Shropshire
Register date range 1789-1812
Archive reference P97/A/3/2
Page 4
Register type Marriage
Both of this Parish
Witnesses were Henry Baker & John Grosvenor
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Market Drayton is a small market town in north Shropshire, England, close to the Staffordshire border. It is on the River Tern, between Shrewsbury and Stoke-on-Trent, and was formerly known as "Drayton in Hales"

malyon

malyon Report 14 Jun 2015 19:26

is'nt price the name of martha

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 19:28

?? But where is it referenced Yvonne?I must be missing it- Can you post it please?

brummie46

brummie46 Report 14 Jun 2015 19:39

Hi Gritty and Yvonne, thanks a million to wha tyou have found, trying to get my head around it.
Regarding the name Price, cant recall to where it came from.
Perhaps it was my research for I believe (sorry should have mentioned earlier) two John Rowleys from same more or less same area and same birth.
thanks again for your time

Gritty

Gritty Report 14 Jun 2015 19:44

OK, I see a tree on Ancestry that has the marriage date and place I posted above (14th Sept 1789 Market Drayton))- but have the surname Price. However, the original image gives Martha's name as PERRY.

Take your time looking through the information posted.

brummie46

brummie46 Report 15 Jun 2015 14:10

thanks gritty.