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wedding Samuel Booth and Mary Ann Morgan 1886 ish

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Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 14:18

found both of them on 1891 ,1901 and 1911 census . 1911 census says they are married for 25 yrs .On Richard birth cert 15/3/1898 father is Samuel and mother is Mary Ann Booth formally Morgan but the informant is Mary Ann Morgan present at birth signed by her X Back Cheshire Street Mossley ,Richard born 3 mill st Mossley

malyon

malyon Report 6 Jun 2015 14:37

mary ann morgan married richard booth which makes them married 25yrs in 1911


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
Booth Richard Bedwelty 11a 114 Scan available - click to view

MORGAN Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 114

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2015 14:45

Says they were all born Mossley lancs

Name: Samuel Booth
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary A Booth
Birth Place: Mossley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Mossley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Mossley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Mossley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3801
Folio: 81
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Booth 37
Mary A Booth 40
Richard Booth 3
John W Booth 6/12


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2015 14:50

Different place of birth in 1911


Name: Mary Ann Booth
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sutton, Cambridge, England
Civil Parish: Mossley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Front Croft St Mossley Nr Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Registration District Number: 468
Sub-registration district: Mossley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24334
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Booth 47
Mary Ann Booth 49
Richard Booth 13
John William Booth 10

7 children born 5 have died. 2 still living who are the ones on the 1901 census

Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 14:51

Shirley ,I took that as a error as Sutton Cambs is a small little village and is on 1911 census with ages correct and on 1891 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2015 14:55

Consistently born Mossley
1871 census


Name: Samuel Booth
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: William Booth
Mother's name: Elizabeth Booth
Gender: Male
Where born: Mossley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Mossley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Hartshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 236
Piece: 4089
Folio: 58
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William Booth 35
Elizabeth Booth 34
Sarah Booth 16
Betty Booth 14
George Booth 13
Samuel Booth 7

1891 census no children listed


Name: Mary Ann Booth
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Booth
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Mossley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub registration district: Hartshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3295
Folio: 135
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Booth 27
Mary Ann Booth 30

Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 15:00

Yvonne Hi Samuel Booth is the father of Richard born15/3/1898..I am looking for a marrige date at abt 1886 Mossley area /Ashton under lyne for Samuel Booth to Mary Ann Morgan

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jun 2015 15:03

Did you not believe Yvonne's post is correct marriage?



Marriages Sep 1886
Booth Richard Bedwelty 11a 114
MORGAN Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 114


Maybe the informant was Mary's Mother ??

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2015 15:16

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcrip?on
Su?on Row, Su?on, Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
Household Members
First
name(s)
Last
name
Relationship Marital
status
Gender Age Birth
year
Occupation Birth place
William Morgan Head Married Male 25 1836
Agricultural
Labourer
Sutton, Cambridgeshire,
England
Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 29 1832 ­
Sutton, Cambridgeshire,
England
Selina Morgan Daughter ­ Female 3 1858 ­
Sutton, Cambridgeshire,
England
Thomas Morgan Son ­ Male 2 1859 ­
Sutton, Cambridgeshire,
England
Mary Morgan Daughter ­ Female 1 1860 ­
Sutton, Cambridges

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2015 15:23

Name: William Morgan
Age in 1911: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cambridge, England
Civil Parish: Mossley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 6 Market St Mossley
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Retired General Labourer
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Registration District Number: 468
Sub-registration district: Mossley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24334
Household Members:
Name Age
William Morgan 75
Selener Morgan 53
Albert Morgan 34

Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 15:23

Mike I am open to all offers.Mary Ann mother was also called Mary Ann,and lived in the Ashton area,but why go to Wales Bedwelty to get married.The more I look at her sons Richards birth the more It think it is possible as specially as the addresses are different for the both Mary Anns.I guess I will have to get hold of the wed cert to prove it 100%

Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 15:32

Yvonne I hope I didn't upset you by not thinking you are 100% right,As I said to Mike I am open to all offers and inputs and very grateful for the help,cause its doing my head in trying to find a simple marriage,buts that the fun in this hobby or maybe they lived in sin xx

malyon

malyon Report 6 Jun 2015 15:33

well perhaps they never married as we cant find the marriage or he changed he's name

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2015 15:43


Name: Mary A Booth
Birth Date: abt 1861
Date of Registration: Sep 1923
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 448

It does look though they never married

Robert

Robert Report 6 Jun 2015 15:44

Mike Samuel is the husband not the Richard,so sad to say the marriage in Bedwelty Wales 1886 is blown out of the water. Hey ho thats life ,back to the drawing board,.Thanks for your input Cheers

Gritty

Gritty Report 6 Jun 2015 16:06

Daughter:

Name: Maud Booth
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1890
Birth Place: Lancashire, England
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1891
Baptism Place: Monsall, Manchester, England
Church: Primitive Methodist, Waggon Road, Micklehurst
Father Name: Samuel Booth. Occ: Bobbin Carrier
Mother Name: Mary Ann Booth

Address: Bank Street, Mossley
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1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3, Mill Street, Mossley, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England

Samuel Booth Head Married Male 37 1864 Cotton Bobbin Carrier Mossley, Lancs
Mary A Booth Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Mossley, Lancashire,
Richard Booth Son - Male 3 1898 - Mossley, Lancashire, England
John W Booth Son - Male 0 1901 - Mossley, Lancashire, England

Gritty

Gritty Report 6 Jun 2015 16:26

Just in case it's relevant- this Mary Morgan (wife of Herbert Morgan) is living Cheshire Street in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Cheshire Street, Mossley, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Herbert Morgan Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Feeder Cotton Mill Ashton, Lancashire,
Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 30 1871 Cotton Cop Reeler Mossley, Cheshire,
Stanley Bowker Step Son Single Male 9 1892 - Mossley, Cheshire, England
Ellen Bowker Step Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Mossley, Cheshire,
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The same Herbert in 1891? (Which fits with Mary being born in Sutton Cambs- fitting in with the info posted by Helen)

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Percy Street, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England

William Morgan Head Married Male 55 1836 Labourer Cambridgeshire,
Mary A Morgan Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Cambridgeshire, England
Selina Morgan Daughter Single Female 34 1857 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire, England
William Morgan Son Married Male 27 1864 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire,
Charles Morgan Son Single Male 24 1867 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire,
Herbert Morgan Son Single Male 20 1871 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire,
Arthur Morgan Son Single Male 17 1874 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire,
Albert Morgan Son Single Male 15 1876 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire,
Ethel Morgan Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Mossley, Lancashire, England
Eliza Branford Lodger Single Female 21 1870 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire,
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And Herbert (and sister Mary) 1881:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
?, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England

Wm Morgan Head Married Male 45 1836 Stoker Sutton
Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Sutton
Selina Morgan Daughter Single Female 23 1858 Reeler Sutton
Mary Morgan Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Reeler Sutton
George Morgan Son Single Male 19 1862 Labourer Sutton
William Morgan Son Single Male 16 1865 Piecer (C M) Sutton
Abraham Morgan Son Single Male 14 1867 Piecer (C M) Sutton
Charles Morgan Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Sutton
Alberta Morgan Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Sutton
Auther Morgan Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Hurst, Lancashire,
Herbert Morgan Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Hurst, Lancashire,
Albert Morgan Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Hurst, Kent, England
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So perhaps when Mary Ann Morgan registered her son's birth (Richard), she was staying with her brother? Or maybe her sister-in-law registered the birth- (although I think it more likely that Mary Ann registered it herself.)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Jun 2015 21:29

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(not seeing anything on above, some Births on there)

Chris :)

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1923

BOOTH Mary Ann 62 Mossley Tameside MOS/20/5

(if above matches 1923 Death posted by Shirley above!)