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WW1 Army Records for Tom Hird

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Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 16:33

Hi All would it be possible for someone to do a lookup for me
Looking for Tom Hird b:1886 Westmorland possibly Levens or Preston Patrick son of Thomas Hird and Hannah Hutchinson
Possible Regiment: Kings Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment) Service No. 2592
Need to confirm if he is the son of Thomas Hird (if next of kin is shown) also confirmation that I have the right Regiment

I am aware that many WW1 records where lost during WW2 if they exist would be interested to see where he served during WW1

Many thanks

UPDATE
I now have a copy of the REPORT downloaded from the National Archives records. Thank you everyone for your help
:-) :-)

Gee

Gee Report 26 May 2015 16:47

Hi

Might this be him



Name:
Tom Hird

Gender:
Male

Birth Date:
abt 1886

Birth Place:
Lesense, Westmorland

Enlistment Age:
28

Document Year:
1914

Regimental Number:
2592

Regiment Name:
Kent Own Br??

Number of Images:
31

Form Title:
Territorial Force Attestation

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 16:51

Hi Gins

Would it be possible to send me the images of his service record

Gee

Gee Report 26 May 2015 16:54

I can't see a NOK on the record. His occupation is Gardner

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 16:58

It is possible as he worked at Levens Hall . What does NOK mean?

Andrew

Andrew Report 26 May 2015 16:59

NOK = Next Of Kin

Andy

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 17:01

Ok thanks

Gee

Gee Report 26 May 2015 17:02


Name:Tom Hird

Age:5

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886

Relation:Son (Child)

Father's name:
Thomas Hird

Mother's name:
Hannah Hird

Gender:Male

Where born:Levens, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish:Levens

Ecclesiastical parish:Levens

County/Island:Westmorland

Registration district:Kendal

ED, institution, or vessel:6

Piece:4334
Folio:70
Page Number:6

Household Members:


Name

Age


Thomas Hird 36
Hannah Hird 35
Isabella Hird 10
Mary Hird 8
Tom Hird 5
Edward Hird 3
Earnest Hird 1
William Hird 7/12

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 17:54

Regiment is definitely the Kings Own

He was a POW from 1915 to 1918

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 19:39

Thanks Jacqueline were can this information be found?
I do not subscribe to any other site other than this one

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 May 2015 20:26

He had worked for William Barratt of Kepplewray, Broughton in Furness, Lanc as a gardener pre 14 Aug 1914 and he offered him emplyment in 1919 on his return to civil life.

Tom's address was Broad Stone House, Holme, Carnforth.


These records are all on findmypast and possibly ancestry as well.

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 20:28

Thanks alviegal

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 May 2015 20:37

Is this him in 1911?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gowrie Eskdale Cumberland, Eskdale and Wasdale, Cumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas Septimus Tyson Head Married Male 30 1881 Nether Wasdale Cumberland Stone Mason
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Ellen Tyson Wife Married Female 33 1878 Eskdale Cumberland Boardinghouse Keeper
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Laura Russell Tyson Daughter - Female 3 1908 Eskdale Cumberland -
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Annie Tyson Daughter - Female 1 1910 Eskdale Cumberland -
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Rose Tyson Daughter - Female 0 1911 Eskdale Cumberland -
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>>Tom Hird Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Levens Westmoreland Gardener Domestic
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Daniel McGinis Boarder Married Male 28 1883 Aberdeen Scotland Resident Stone-Cutter
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John Caven Boarder Single Male 23 1888 Dalbeattie Kirkcudbrightshire Scotland Resident Sett-Maker
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William George Wykes Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Dalbeattie Kirkcudbrightshire Scotland Resident Sett-Maker
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Isabella Dawson Servant Single Female 17 1894 Eskdale Cumberland General Servant Domestic

Ann

Ann Report 26 May 2015 20:42

Had seen this information and yes think it maybe but still researching

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 May 2015 03:53

The National Archives have this record for a Tom Hird as part of their POW collection :

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9214050

downloadable for £3.30.

You can preview images of the material, and there seems to be 3 typescript pages. You can only see snippets in the preview, but he seems to be talking about how he was wounded, taken prisoner , what life was like in the camps, what parcels and letters they were allowed to receive, treatment, discipline etc, recorded in his own words.

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Name(s): Hird, Tom. Page no: 1831-1834. Corps: 4th Battalion King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment. Regiment ...

War Office: Miscellaneous Unregistered Papers, First World War. Committee on the Treatment of British Prisoners of War: Interviews and Reports. Other ranks reports: pages 1576-2402... Name(s): Hird, Tom. Page no: 1831-1834. Corps: 4th Battalion King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment. Regiment No: 2592. Rank: Corporal. People mentioned: Captain Pearson, 4th Battalion King's Own Royal
Held by: The National Archives - War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Date: 17 June 1915
Reference: WO 161/99/100

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" Prisoner of war interview reports 1914-1918

What are these records?

These records, in series WO 161, are reports on over 3,000 British and Commonwealth prisoners of war captured during the First World War.

The reports were made by the Committee on the Treatment of British Prisoners of War before the Armistice was signed on 11 November 1918. The Committee appointed examiners who conducted interviews with repatriated, escaped or interned prisoners of war to ask about how they had been treated. The examiners then wrote up the reports.

The reports include:

officers
medical officers
other ranks
merchant seamen and civilians (in a minority of cases)

Although the reports contain valuable information, they represent only a tiny percentage of the estimated 192,000 British and Commonwealth captives. They do not include the many prisoners of war who were liberated after the Armistice.

What information do the records contain?

Most reports can include details of:

unit
home address
events in no man's land
when and where captured
wounds suffered
transfer between camps
comments on treatment and conditions in camps
escape attempts

A few early reports contain straightforward answers to specific questions. Not all standard questions were filled in on the form.

Standard questions from the hospital enquiry sheet include:

name, rank and regiment
rank
home address
place and date of capture
treatment details

Unlike many other records, the reports often describe what happened after the battle in which the prisoner was captured."

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 May 2015 04:07

From his military records on FMP as mentioned by others:

Embodied Home 8/9/14

Appointed Act. L/Corpl 7/11/14
Appointed Act Cpl 16/5/15

Wounded missing 15/6/15

Prisoner of War 15/6/15

Posted
Repatriated P O W 9/12/18

Disembodied 12/3/19



greyghost

greyghost Report 27 May 2015 10:38

The International Committee of the Red Cross has digitised it's WW1 POW records and has records for Thomas/Tom.

Inputting his surname will show a card with 4 references on it which you can then input separately to see what each record contains.

There are explanations of how to read the cards and an abbreviations glossary (they are in German)

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org

Different prisoners have different records showing. My own Grandfather's shows his NOK details and the fact that his wife was informed, but I don't see this for Tom.

Ann

Ann Report 27 May 2015 11:17

Thank you Kucinta and greyghost will take a look at the above sites and see what I can find out :-)

northwood

northwood Report 29 May 2015 20:51

I looked on the Ancestry site and found a Tom Hird 2592.
Served in the 4th Battalion Kings Own a Territorial Regiment and was discharged in
1921
Born in Levens Westmorland
Regards
Northwood

Ann

Ann Report 30 May 2015 07:49

Thank you Northwood