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Good Evening:
I`me having a bit of bother again.I`ve got Michael Welsh age 50 yrs old (born Ireland) .His wife Hannah age 55yrs old Born Worsley lancashire,and their son Edward Welsh born abt 1826 ( all on the 1841 census)..ime ok with edward. I have all info for him after 1841 :-)
Hannah dies in 1863 at 28 Lioyd st hulme, Michael also dies the same year and same address.I would like a bit of help finding them on the 1851 census please...

I'm struggling to find them on FMP in 1851 yet Michael and Hannah are there in the 1861 census.

Chris

I can't find them either but I'm wondering about this couple (not Michael) but the image is a printed sheet and there seems to be other mistakes on it i.e. the address so could be worth checking:-

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lo Yard Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Thomas Dolan Head Married Male 25 1826 Beerhouse Ireland
Jane Dolan Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ellen Dolan Dau Unmarried Female 4 1847 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Norton Lodger Unmarried Male 36 1815 Town's Laborer Anglesey, Wales
Eliza Norbury Lodger Unmarried Female 44 1807 Infirmary Nurse Kent, England
Edward Welsh Lodger Married Male 27 1824 Carver Ireland<<<<<<<<<<<
Hanh Welsh Wife Married Female 24 1827 Reeler Manchester, Lancashire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Despite the address given it is actually Lloyd Street.

Could the marital status and ages of Edward and Hannah have been mis-transcribed? Perhaps Michael was away from home or back in Ireland?

Kath. x

Could this be them with wrong name for Hannah (Mary)?


Right town, places of birth and occupations OK.


Name:Mary Welsh
Age:68
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1783
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Michael Welsh
Gender:Female
Where born:Worsley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish:St George
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Town:Hulme
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district:Chorlton
Sub-registration district:Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel:2g
Neighbors:
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Household schedule number68
Piece:2221
Folio:195
Page Number:18
Household Members:
Name
Age

Michael Welsh 66 Porter born Ireland
Mary Welsh 68 Laundress

Andy

No Kathleen, my Edward was was born in manchester and married married in 1845,and this Hannah is too young :-(

That does seem a possibility Andrew. This is the Findmypast version:-

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Hulme, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Michael Welsh Head Married Male 66 1785 Porter Ireland
Mary Welsh Wife Married Female 68 1783 Laundress Worsley, Lancashire, England

Kath. x

Yes i also stumbled upon that one Andrew, this gets more confusing :-S

this looks like them in 1861


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street Silver Street
County Lancashire
Parish Hulme
City Manchester
Town
Ecclesiastical District St Georges
Parliamentary Borough Manchester
Enumeration District 46
Registration District Chorlton
Country England
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Person 1

First Name Hannah
Last Name Welsh
Birth Year 1787
Age 74
Birth Town Worsley
Birth County Lancashire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household Wife
Gender Female
Occupation Charwoman
Condition Married
Archive Reference RG09
Folio 54
Page 47
Piece Number 2897

Person 2

First Name Michel
Last Name Welsh
Birth Year 1788
Age 73
Birth Town
Birth County
Birth Place Ireland
Relationship To Head of Household Head
Gender Male
Occupation Labourer Of Servant
Condition Married
Archive Reference RG09
Folio 54
Page 47
Piece Number 2897

I realised that the details were wrong Cane - it's just the address was close to where they lived in 1861 and there seemed to be other mistakes on the transcription so I thought it was worth looking at, but now Andrew has come up with a better bet for you.

Kath. x

polly poppet :-). correct and i have this info :-)

1851 has pieces missing from Lancashire so might just be unlucky

2221 Lancashire
Manchester
Moss-side
Hulme


Loads of others missing

Thanks Kathleen x

Thanks Glitter...Just my luck :-(
Water damaged stuff, most of Hulme is like this