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SMITH'S OF BIRMINGHAM/WARWICKSHIRE

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Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 12:43

Not to worry- easily done!

Son's burial:

First name(s) William C H
Last name Smith
Death year 1894
Burial year 1894
Cemetery Birmingham, Warstone Lane cemetery
County Warwickshire
Register number 48584
URL http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries
Record set Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010

ian

ian Report 30 Mar 2015 12:39

hi gritty, got it wrong as per, it was Binswood crescent, & it was his son whom died of cancer aged 54, so sorry I have all these smith running around my head

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 12:02

Ian- do you have the death certificate? What was the address- Binswood Crescent? and who was the informant?

Are you sure you have the correct death cert- a few options:

Death:
Name: Henry Smith
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Warwick
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 339

Death:
Name: Henry Smith
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Warwick
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 328

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:50

But he was 61 on the 1861 census??

National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Henry Smith
Probate Date: 15 Mar 1865
Death Date: 12 Sep 1864
Death Place: Warwickshire, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:50

Possible for Mum's burial:

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Smith
Age 59
Birth year 1767
Death year 1826
Death date ? ? 1826
Burial year 1826
Burial date 26 Feb 1826
Burial place Birmingham
Denomination Unitarian or Presbyterian
County Warwickshire
Archive reference TNA/RG/4/1431
Description WARWICKSHIRE: Birmingham, Old Meeting House (Presbyterian, or Unitarian, in 17th century): Burials

ian

ian Report 30 Mar 2015 11:50

thanks for all the info gritty, henry was only 43 when he died from cancer (from ancestry site) so born 1819/20

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:46

Father's burial: (Old Meeting House)

First name(s) Timothy
Last name Smith
Age 69
Birth year 1765
Death year 1834
Death date ? ? 1834
Burial year 1834
Burial date 23 Jul 1834
Burial place Birmingham
Denomination Unitarian or Presbyterian
County Warwickshire
Archive reference TNA/RG/4/1431
Description WARWICKSHIRE: Birmingham, Old Meeting House (Presbyterian, or Unitarian, in 17th century): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-conformist burials
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Father's baptism:
First name(s) Timothy
Last name Smith
Baptism year 1765
Baptism date 24 Feb 1765
Place Street
Denomination Unitarian
Father's first name(s) Timothy
Mother's first name(s) Susannah
County Warwickshire
Archive reference TNA/RG/4/3633
Description WARWICKSHIRE: Street (Unitarian): Baptisms

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:37

Occupational and Quarter Session Records, 1662-1866

Name: Timothy Smith
Occ: Brass Founder
Date: 1817
Parish: Edgbaston
Division: Birmingham
Hundred: Hemlingford
Record Type: Jurors Lists 1816-1824

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:30

and baptism for brother:

Name: Samuel Smith
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1805
Birth Place: Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Mortan
Piece Title: Piece 4661-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1805-1812
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Sister:
Name: Maria Smith
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1794
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Morgan
Denomination: Presbyterian, Independent or Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 0020: Certificate nos: C 1001-1250 (1797 July 20-1798 Apr 5)
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Sister:
Name: Caroline Smith
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1797
Birth Place: Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Morgan
Piece Title: Piece 4660: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1792-1805
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Brother:
Name: Robert Smith
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1801
Birth Place: Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Mortan
Piece Title: Piece 4661-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1805-1812
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Sister:
Name: Emma Smith
Birth Date: 2 Jan 1804
Birth Place: Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Morgan
Denomination: Presbyterian, Independent or Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 0034: Certificate nos: D 751-1000 (1806 Nov 28-1807 Apr 23)

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:26

Census age fits with this:

Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970

Name: Henry Smith
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1799
Birth Place: Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Timothy Smith
Mother: Elizabeth Morgan (daughter of Robert & Ann Morgan)
Piece Title: Piece 4660: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1792-1805

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Mar 2015 11:21

Name: Henry Smith
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Oct 1858
Event Place: St Mary, Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Timothy Smith
Spouse's Name: Maria Louisa Phipson
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: John Phipson

GS Film number: 1067485 , Digital Folder Number: 4292046 , Image Number: 00461

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 11:21

For ref: 1861

Henry Smith Head Married Male 61 1800 Manufacturer In Brass Employing 203 Men 36 Wome### Edgbaston, Warwickshire,
Maria L Smith Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Birmingham, Warwickshire,
William C H Smith Son - Male 1 1860 - Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth Collins Servant Unmarried Female 26 1835 Cook Membury, Devon, England
Elizabeth Reid Servant Unmarried Female 27 1834 Nurse Wyboston, Bedfordshire, England
Catherine Martin Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 House Maid Dudley, Worcestershire, England

House number 2
Street Binswood Crescent
Parish Leamington Priors
City or borough -
Town Leamington
County Warwickshire
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough -
Registration district Warwick
Enumeration district 15
Piece number 2222
Folio number 98
Page number 29

Gives his age as 61 here- where do you have his year of birth from?
Do you have Henry on the 41 & 51 census before his marriage?

ian

ian Report 30 Mar 2015 11:09

I know this is a very long shot with the name smith but here goes: all the info is taken from the will of henry smith b 1819/20 died sept 1864 he said he would like to be buried at The Old Meeting House Birmingham (Unitarian) he m maria Louisa phipson 1819-1892 (THIS IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE SMITH FAMILY OF FOLESHILL COVENTY)
In henry's will he mentioned his brother Samuel (and say no money to his other siblings) which I cannot find along with Samuel. Their father was timothy smith 17??-18?? he owned timothy smith & sons of Birmingham brass founders & lamp makers. Their are lots of timothy smith's in & around birmingham