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Ships arriving UK lookup please

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Dawn

Dawn Report 30 Mar 2015 00:33

Hi, I am looking for an Anna Bjornsen she was born 1891 in Norway and arrived in UK as a young woman. She married a William Blair in 1925 and left that year for NZ.
I have checked ancestry and saw two entries for that name that era, and would like to know the information please.
I have also found her and William arriving in NZ on the Mahino from Sydney, in 1925, but can't find them leaving UK .
William Blair was born 1877 costerfieldnorway Victoria Australia and was a sailor, also haven't found him entering UK
Any help would be much appreciated
Thank you
Dawn in N

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Mar 2015 04:23

there are so far as I know few records of people arriving in England for Europe and Scandinavia


These are the records that I found for Anna Bjorns*n on ancestry (where * is a wild card)


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Anna Bjornson 30 b. abt 1884 arr 29 May 1914 from Quebec, Canada arr. Liverpool, England

Anna Bjornson arr. 14 Jun 1902 from New York, New York, United States arr. Liverpool, England

Margaret Ann Bjornson 20 b. abt 1916 arr. 17 Jun 1936 from Quebec, Canada arr. Southampton, England




England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: Anna G Bjornsen
Spouse Surname: Blair
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 276
Spouse: William Blair



this could be her ......... or maybe not, as you said William was a seaman


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Mrs Anna G Blair
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1891
Departure Date: 1 Oct 1925
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Baradine
Search Ship Database: Search for the Baradine in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 145419
Master: Captain W Rollo

from image:-

travelling with William Blair

William :-

steel fixer
address:- 9 Albert Street, Euston, N.W.1
age:- 49

going to live permanently in Australia




Dawn

Dawn Report 30 Mar 2015 07:40

Hi, thank you for looking these up for me. That will be them as he ended up helping to build dams here in NZ and an engineer, but he had been on sailing ships.

He was born in Australia still haven't found him arriving in UK

Interesting about her, apparently two siblings went to the states I wonder if the second one would be her? But quite young? Was told by the lady who I am doing this for that she cooked for the Norwegian royal family? And she did know the lady, her grandmother as she died in 1980 age 89

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2015 11:09

????
This one's a steelworker. He would have made it in time for the wedding, if it's him.

William Blair

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: William Blair
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 49
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1925
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Sachem
Search Ship Database: Search for the Sachem in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Furness Line
Official Number: 102114

Proposed address: 7 Blenheim St, Chelsea, London.
Nationality not given

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2015 11:19

Wrong birthplace, and married - but thought I'd throw this in:

William Blair

in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Blair
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Crew
Gender: Male
Birth Place: NEW CASTLE , New South Wales
Civil Parish: Ratcliff Shadwell Wapping
County/Island: London
Country: England
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: SEAMAN
Registration district: Stepney
Registration District Number: 20
Sub-registration district: Shadwell and Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1547

(Listed among large numbers of crew members.)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2015 11:25

Is this his birth - middle name Alfred?

William Alfred Blair

in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: William Alfred Blair
Father's name: William Blair
Mother's name: Henrietta Richards
Birth Place: Costerfild, Victoria
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 1882

Dawn

Dawn Report 30 Mar 2015 12:57

Hi, thank you for that, I did see the second one born NSW on the index and wondered. If he was on the 1911 it would give a few years for him to be single again? Also my friend did say, there was 'something' about the family some disagreement about something!
And yes that is his birth and full name
Hmmmm and as we know things are often never straight forward in family research!
Thanks so much again!

Dawn

Dawn Report 30 Mar 2015 13:05

Just remembered I did see on the census when I put in just Bjornsen that there was a Bjorn Bjornsen in stepney from Norway in 1911 and I did find her birth in Norway in 1891 and her fathers name was Bjorn! So maybe this was a brother? And how they met?

Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Mar 2015 13:23

Baptism
Name: Anna Georgine Bjornsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 apr 1891
Baptism Date: 24 mai 1891 (24 May 1891)
Baptism Place: Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Bjorn Bjornsen
Mother: Ingeborg Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 278217
Reference ID: 2:29PT311

sister?
Name: Karoline Bjornsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 apr 1888
Baptism Date: 27 mai 1888 (27 May 1888)
Baptism Place: Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Bjorn Bjornsen
Mother: Ingeborg Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 278217
Reference ID: 2:29PSV6V

Gee

Gee Report 30 Mar 2015 13:41


Name:William Alfred (shopkeeper) & Anna Gurine Blair

Electoral Year:1935

District:Christchurch East

Region or Province:Canterbury


Not seeing William after 1946 on the ER. Maybe this is him




Name:William Alfred Blair

Death Date:Apr-May-Jun 1948 <<age 72

Registration Place:Rangiora, Canterbury, New Zealand

Folio Number:2405



Name:Anna Gurine Blair (widow)

Electoral Year:1949

District:Hurunui

Region or Province:Canterbury


1980/49707 Blair Anna Gurine 22 April 1891

Dawn

Dawn Report 30 Mar 2015 22:56

Hi, thank you for all the info. Wondering if you could check the 1911 for the Bjorn Bjornsen born 1893 Norway, to see if the image gives more info than the bit I can see? Maybe the same ship?
I must see if I can find William leaving Australia from that side and see if there are any more records of him leaving as it could easily of happened given his age. Will try and find a marriage and any signs of him back in Australia after 1911! Maybe this is the secret 'something'? Why if he is Australian didn't they stay in australia? Why go straight on to NZ? I will ask my friend when her mother was born so then know for definite when they were here.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Mar 2015 01:38

he's a crew member on a ship


1911 Census

Name: Bjorn Bjornsen
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Crew
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norway
Civil Parish: Limehouse
County/Island: London
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: A B SEAMAN
Registration district: Stepney
Registration District Number: 20
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1571

Harm Pronk 0
Johan Zacharissen 30 Master >>>>>>>> image says he's 45
Olufs Bourner 51
Lars G Anderson 21
Ole Olsen 22
Andres Johanmann 18
Bjorn Bjornsen 18
Adolf Svendan 18
Samuel Hansen 17
Johannes Hansen 18
Karl Zahannian 15

Ship's Name:- Kornmo


all crew Norwegian

"Kornmo" is a barque registered in Norway, employed in Foreign Trade, and was docked at Regents Canal Dock, Limehouse, London


nothing to show any connection with Anna or William

Dawn

Dawn Report 31 Mar 2015 04:11

Hi thank you. For all your help.