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James Martin born 1856

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Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Mar 2015 17:46

James Martin was born in 1856 at Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire his parents were Charles Martin and Mary Jennings.

I can find information on James up to 1871 census where he was living at Fenton ,Staffordshire and employed as a brickmaker.

I am trying to find out if I have got the correct marriage for this James Martin.

I have found a James Martin living with a wife Elizabeth in Monks Coppenhall, Staffordshire in the 1881 census and have found a marriage for a James Martin marrying an Elizabeth Houghton in 1876 registered at Newcastle Under Lyme, Staffordshire.

In the 1891 census they are living in Horwich, Lancashire and James is employer on the railway. Some of the family moved to this area.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:08

just for reference

Name: James Martin
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-District: Fenton
Parish: Fenton
County: Staffordshire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Mary Martin Head F 35 Eccleshall, Staffordshire
Samuel Martin Son M 17 Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire
James Martin Son M 15 Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire
Annie Martin Daughter F 10 Crewe, Cheshire
George Charles Martin Son M 6 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire
Mary Elizth Martin Daughter F 4 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire
Herbert Martin Son M 2 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:12

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1919
Registration District: Stoke On Trent
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 63
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Volume: 6B
Page: 288
Line Number: 72

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:14

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1878
Registration District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Burton Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 559
Line Number: 188


James Martin probably married one of the following people
Name: Alice Cook
Name: Emma Peat

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:14

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1878
Registration District: Stone
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Stone, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 49
Line Number: 30


James Martin probably married one of the following people
Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Name: Zillah Walters

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:15

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1877
Registration District: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 929
Line Number: 34


James Martin probably married one of the following people
Name: Caroline Smith

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:16

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1876
Registration District: Newcastle Under Lyme
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Newcastle Under Lyme, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 85
Line Number: 67


James Martin probably married one of the following people

Name: Elizabeth Houghton
Name: Eliza Shaw Rhodes

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Mar 2015 18:17

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Name: James Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1880
Registration District: Lichfield
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
Volume: 6B
Page: 505
Line Number: 209


James Martin probably married one of the following people
Name: Louisa Hewitt Perks

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Mar 2015 18:38

Could this be him in 1911? Last name of family is Trevor.

James Martin

in the 1911 England Census

Name: James Martin
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shelton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Seaford Street, Shelton, Stoke On Trent
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Potters Presser
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Registration District Number: 361
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 307
Piece: 16541
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Yrevor 37
Mary Emma Yrevor 33
Thomas Joseph Yrevor 10
John Richard Yrevor 6
Kathleen Marion Yrevor 6
Emily May Yrevor 10/12
James Martin 55

Gritty

Gritty Report 26 Mar 2015 18:46

1911
Name: James Martin
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Horwich
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 19 Ramsbottom Road Horwich Lancs
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Foreman Works
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Horwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 23334
Household Members:
Name Age
James Martin 54
Elizabeth Martin 53 Cheshire, Crewe
Frederick Martin 30 " Crewe
Ada Charlott Martin 23 Kent, New Brompton

*Married 34 years<<<<<<<, 8 children- 5 still living

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Mar 2015 18:53

That looks better, Gritty, matches the 1876 marriage.

Gritty

Gritty Report 26 Mar 2015 18:55

Not sure it is the correct marriage- I think that's what Rachel wants to know. Frederick, Gertrude, Annie were born Crewe- maybe marriage was in Crewe/ Cheshire?

Family 1881 in Cheshire:

Name: James Martin
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Monks Coppenhall
County/Island: Cheshire
Street address: 3 Sandbach Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Engine Fitter At Works
Registration district: Nantwich
Sub registration district: Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 3542
Folio: 96
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
James Martin 25
Elizabeth Martin 24 Cheshire Crewe
Annie Martin 4 Cheshire, Crewe
Gertrude Martin 2 Cheshire, Crewe
Frederick Martin Cheshire, Crewe

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Mar 2015 19:02

FreeBMD doesn't have a James Martin/Elizabeth marriage in Cheshire between 1870-1880.

Gritty

Gritty Report 26 Mar 2015 19:06

you're right- this is Elizabeth 1871:

Name: Elizabeth Houghton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: James Houghton
Mother's name: Martha Houghton
Gender: Female
Where born: Crewe, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Crewe
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 3709
Folio: 58
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Houghton 40
Martha Houghton 36
Sarah Houghton 16
Elizabeth Houghton 14
James Houghton 12
William Houghton 7
Thomas Houghton 3

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Mar 2015 19:20

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
MARTIN Frederick George Crewe Cheshire East CR/59/031

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
MARTIN Frederick Crewe Cheshire East CR/62/053

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
MARTIN Frederick Crewe Cheshire East CR/65/030

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1881
MARTIN Frederick G Crewe Cheshire East CR/66/050

(one of above perhaps!)


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Chris :)

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
MARTIN James HAUGHTON Elizabeth Newcastle, St George Newcastle-Under-Lyme C21/4/408

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
MARTIN James Stoke Stoke-On-Trent JENNINGS STO/013/043

Rachel

Rachel Report 5 Apr 2015 16:24

Thank you for all the information given,

I have now found out that James Martin did marry Elizabeth Houghton in 1876.