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Arthur Taylor and Mary Martin (b 1854 Glos)

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Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Mar 2015 13:57

I am looking for information regarding the above two people. Mary Martin was born in Stroud, Glos in 1854 and she married an Arthur Taylor. They had a daughter called Maud. I have heard rumours in the family that Arthur was deported to Australia, but I have no evidence to back these rumours up. They are all listed in the 1881 census for Birmingham, but I can't find a record for 1891, and the surname Martin is very very common in records. If anyone thinks they can help, I would love to hear from you. Mary's mother was called Elizabeth Evans and her father was called Henry Martin. Thank you. Regards, Jayne :-D

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Mar 2015 14:11

for ref:

Marriage:

Name: Arthur Taylor (plasterer)
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 3 Sep 1878
Marriage Age: Full
Marriage Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Mary Martin
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Full
Father: Peter Taylor (plasterer)
Spouse's Father: Henry Martin (coachman)

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Mar 2015 14:16

1881:

Arthur Taylor Head Married Male 28 1853 Plasterer Stroud, Gloucestershire,
Mary Taylor Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Stonehouse, Gloucestershire,
Maud M Taylor Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Gloucestershire,
Emma Bonater Or Bowater Lodger Single Female 21 1860 Charwoman Birmingham,
Louisa Bonater Or Bowater Lodger Single Female 3 1878 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Street Johnstone Street
Parish Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Birmingham
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2970
Folio 129
Page 34
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Maud's baptism: (still at Johnstone Street)
Name: Maud Mary Taylor
Baptism Date: 16 Aug 1882
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Father: Arthur Taylor
Mother: Mary Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 82
Archive Roll: M168/M299

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Mar 2015 14:24

and other children:

Name: Alice Lilian Taylor
Baptism Date: 16 Aug 1882
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Father: Arthur Taylor
Mother: Mary Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 82
Archive Roll: M168/M299

William Arthur Taylor
Baptism Date: 17 Sep 1884
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Father: Arthur Taylor
Mother: Mary Ann Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 82
Archive Roll: M168/M299

Could be another child- they're living 52 Johnstone Row- but they've poshed themselves up with middle names (Edit: Arthur's occupation: music seller- so possibly not the correct family)

Name: Henry Arthur Taylor
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1889
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Father: Arthur John Taylor
Mother: Mary Agnes Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 82/10
Archive Roll: 1

Gee

Gee Report 23 Mar 2015 14:27

Is this with a second wife



Arthur Taylor in the 1911 England Census


Name:Arthur Taylor

Age in 1911:56

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855

Relation to Head:
Brother-in-law (Brother)

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Stroud

Civil Parish:Smethwick

County/Island:Worcestershire

Country:England

Street address:163 Lightwoods Road, Smethwick

Marital Status:Married

Occupation:
Plasterer

Registration district:Kings Norton

Registration District Number:383

Sub-registration district:Smithwick

ED, institution, or vessel:2

Household schedule number:166

Piece:17944


Name

Age


William Westwood Osborne 54
Arthur Taylor 56
Annie Taylor 56

safc

safc Report 23 Mar 2015 14:40


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
163 Lightwoods Road Smethwick, Smethwick, Worcestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Westwood Osborne Head Single Male 54 1857 Birmingham Tin Plate Worker
Transcription
Arthur Taylor Brother In Law Married Male 36 1875 Stroud Plasterer
Transcription
Annie Taylor Sister Married Female 56 1855 Birmingham House Keeper

safc

safc Report 23 Mar 2015 14:45


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
163, Lightwoods Road, Smethwick (Staffordshire), Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Osborne Son Single Male 43 1858 Tin Plate Worker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Hannah Osborne Mother Widow Female 71 1830 - Buckinghamshire, England
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Arthur Taylor Brother-In-Law Married Male 45 1856 Plasterer (House) Strand, Middlesex, England
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Annie Taylor Sister Married Female 45 1856 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, Englan

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Mar 2015 14:48

a tree on ancestry has this for maud

1901
Name: Maud Turner
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Stephen Turner
Birth Place: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2887
Folio: 103
Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Turner 26
Maud Turner 21
William Turner 3
Harry Turner


Name: Maud Taylor
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Aston
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 487
Records on Page:
Name
Matilda Rainey
William Summerfield
Maud Taylor
Stephen Turner

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Mar 2015 14:55

1911
Name: Maud Turner
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Aston Manor
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: Bk 113 Park Lane Aston Bham
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 18297
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Turner 35
Maud Turner 31
Harold Turner 14
Harry Turner 11
Edward Turner 9
Maud Turner 3

safc

safc Report 23 Mar 2015 15:01


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Old Windmill Private House, Dudley Road, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah Osbourne Head Widow Female 70 1821 - Birmingham
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Annie Osbourne Daughter Single Female 32 1859 Assistant Barmaid Birmingham
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William Osbourne Son Single Male 30 1861 Barman Birmingham
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Arthur Taylor Lodger Single Male 36 1855 Labourer Birmingham

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Mar 2015 15:47

Maud's marriage?

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (FMP)
First name(s) Stephen
Last name Turner
Age 22
Marriage year 1896
Marriage date 08 Nov 1896
Marriage place Aston Parish, Warwick County, England
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Turner
Spouse's first name(s) Maud
Spouse's last name Taylor
Spouse's birth year 1876
Spouse's birth date 1876
Spouse's father's first name(s) Arthur
Spouse's father's last name Taylor
Residence Aston, Warwick, England
Place Aston
County Warwickshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2015 16:09

Transportation to Australia ended in 1868; if he was born in Stroud, England, then he won't have been deported. Emigration might be a possibility if the family rumours have any foundation, but Gins'/safc's 1911 census looks very promising.

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Mar 2015 16:26

There's an article in the Oxford Journal - Saturday 20 July 1872 re a respectable young man called Arthur Taylor, a plasterer from Stroud, accused of stealing a shawl at Nuneham. No age is given. The cased was dismissed through lack of evidence.

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Mar 2015 17:20

Oh my goodness!! Thank you to everyone who has replied with an overwhelming amount of priceless information!! I am literally just about to go out now, but will definitely go through all this later on this evening. Thank you all so much again, brilliant, I am so so very grateful!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Jayne

Jayne Report 23 Mar 2015 21:01

Just found out that it probably isn't the same Arthur Taylor as the one in the Oxford Journal article, as apparently it says Strond not Stroud and it happened in Middlesex which is a long way from Gloucestershire in those days. But thank you anyway, it is still fascinating reading!! :-D

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Mar 2015 12:25

There is no such place as Strond - it's a misprint

Nuneham Park, where the alleged offence occurred, is in Oxfordshire........

Middlesex was the home of Mr Daniel Hamilton, whose wife's shawl was the subject of the court case