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Gritty - I suspected that, but the title specifically said "completed years the *present* marriage has lasted".

Thanks both for all your help. I'm chuffed, and I know my Dad will be too :)

Matthew- I think on the 1911 Ellen Gertrude was just stating the date she first married (in 1908)

Thanks Gritty and Margee.

I believe that's the census record I found previously, but the place of birth made me discard it.

Ellen Gertrude and family in 1901

1901:
Thomas Davies Head M Male 38 1863 Colliery Haulier (Below Ground) Sirhowy, Monmouthshire,
Margaret J Davies Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ellen G Davies Daughter - Female 10 1891 - United States
Thomas Davies Son - Male 8 1893 - Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Alfred J Davies Son - Male 4 1897 - Newbridge, Monmouthshire, Wales

Street Torlais Street
Parish Abercarn
Country Wales
County Monmouthshire
Municipal ward Torlais
Registration district Newport
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 4968
Folio 25
Page 2

I just found the census record and also noticed the marriage down as 3 years, which contradicts the earlier marriage certificate.

Very curious as to why they don't match?

Fred Parker

in the 1911 Wales Census
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Name: Fred Parker
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Brayton, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Llanhilleth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 29 Railway St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner (hewer)
Registration district: Pontypool
Registration District Number: 586
Sub-registration district: Llanhilleth
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 31893
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Parker 21
Gertrude Parker 21
David Thomas Margan 1

David is a stepson. Curious that Fred & Gertrude have been married 3 years, 1 child still living! Why is David a Morgan and a stepchild?

Edit: Sorry, Gritty, didn't notice you'd already posted this. I didn't refresh the page.
It definitely states born US of America but British by parentage.

Was she really American? That cropped up somewhere previously and I discarded it as it didn't match anything else.

Do you by any chance have a copy of the census of this at all please?

I have found a census in 1901 for Tredegar, a neighbouring valley. It shows 'Ellen Davies' age 11 and born in Tredegar, and her father 'Thomas Davies' age 42. However, would be interested to see your copy (if possible) before heading down the wrong route!

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Your record is correct. My grandfather's birth certificate shows he was born at 29 Railway Street, Llanhilleth!

This is them 1911 (Child from first marriage also residing)- note Gertrude/ Ellen born in US:

1911 Wales Census

Fred Parker Head Married Male 21 1890 Berkshire Drayton Coal Miner Hewer
Gertrude Parker Wife Married Female 21 1890 U S of America -
David Thomas Morgan Stepson - Male 1 1910 Monmouth Llanhilleth

Address 29 Railway Street Llanhilleth Mon
Parish Llanhilleth
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Registration district Pontypool
Registration district number 586
Subdistrict Llanhilleth
Subdistrict number 1
Enumeration district 4
Piece number 31893
Schedule number 16
Census reference RG14PN31893 RG78PN1835 RD586 SD1 ED4 SN16

Thank you. My father (Raymond's son) knows of Tom, but that's about as far as it goes unfortunately!

Matthew- not sure where your other info has come from, but thought this would be more likely to be Ellen's first marriage (full details not available- but first hubby could have been David James Morgan):

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) ELLEN GERTRUDE
Last name DAVIES
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1908
MarriageFinder™ ELLEN GERTRUDE DAVIES married one of these people
JOHN WILSON WILLIAMSON, DAVID JAMES MORGAN
District NEWPORT (MONMOUTHSHIRE)
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 452

Original is on Find My Past- have pm's you a copy

Gritty - That's brilliant! Thank You!

I have to ask though, how did you manage to find that?! I've been searching all morning!

Hi there,

This may be a long shot, but I'm struggling with 2 relations. I'm looking for help trying to find out information on my great grandfather, Frederick Charles Parker, born c.1890 (we believe), and his wife Ellen Gertrude Davies, born 1890-1891. Both are believed to have been born in Monmouthshire.

Ellen Gertrude Davies married a Thomas Morgan who I have no information on, but she remarried Fred later on at St Illtyd's church in Brynithel, Wales (would have come under Monmouthshire).

Ellen and Fred has several children, only one I have information on is Raymond, my grandfather, born 1921.

Any help appreciated.

Many Thanks
Mathew