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Eunice
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17 Mar 2015 17:42 |
Edward Dwyer married Catherine Martin in Manchester c 1870. Within 2 years Catherine and their baby daughter Margaret had both died and he eventually remarried, to Eva Sullivan. I cannot find the exact marriage dates though? On the usual site it gives an Edward Dwyer in Jan 1870, and on a separate page Catherine Martin in 1870, but on those respective pages there are either more mens names than womens, or vice versa - and guess whose I can't find? Could anyone please help? Thank you i anticipation, Eunice :-)
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brummiejan
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17 Mar 2015 17:48 |
Hi Eunice Assuming this is the entry you mean, there are actually the right number of males/females as Joseph Ashton has been added incorrectly:
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%) Ashton Joseph Ashton 8d 571 CONNOR Joseph Manchester 8d 571 Cummings Ellen Manchester 8d 571 DWYER Edward Manchester 8d 571 Somerville Bridget Manchester 8d 571
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17 Mar 2015 17:51 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference DWYER Edward MARTIN Catherine Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi
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17 Mar 2015 17:51 |
I see what you mean though! Ref number is actually a match as it says 571 on image. Must be them surely?
Name: Catherine Martin Registration Year: 1870 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 57
Sarah Clough Mary Alice Gilbody James Hunt John Leary Catherine Martin Leana Rogaliner
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17 Mar 2015 17:54 |
(freebmd) Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57_
On the Anc image it is 571
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Eunice
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17 Mar 2015 17:55 |
oh crumbs! Thanks Jean, but thats confused me (even more than I normally am :-) ) as on the 1871 census they are living with her mum who is Margaret Martin …. mmmm back to the drawing board, maybe! ;-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Mar 2015 17:56 |
Looks like the trancsriber couldn't read the page nos Marriages Mar 1870 MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57-
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Eunice
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17 Mar 2015 17:56 |
ooh just seen the above whilst typing 1st reply! Thats interesting! Thank you!
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malyon
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17 Mar 2015 18:10 |
Edward Dwyer England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index Name: Edward Dwyer Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1870 Registration District: Manchester County: Lancashire Event Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Volume: 8D Page: 571 Line Number: 222 Edward Dwyer probably married one of the following people Name: Joseph Connor Name: Ellen Cummings Name: Catherine Martin Name: Annie Pickford
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Eunice
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17 Mar 2015 18:12 |
Well that looks like them, so thank you all as ever for a speedy response and help! Much appreciated. <3
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malyon
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17 Mar 2015 18:28 |
the only marriage for a dwyer and sullivan is this one her name is mary
Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) DREW James Prestwich 8d 838 Dwyer Edward Prestwich 8d 838 Sullivan Mary Prestwich 8d 838 Wood Frances Prestwich 8d 838
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17 Mar 2015 18:34 |
This is the entry in question:
Marriages Mar 1870 MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57_
It's clear the transcriber was unable to complete this transcription, but the image actually says the page is 571. I've subm'd a correction to FreeBMD
In a couple of months, when FreeBMD approve my correction, she'll be put along with:
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%) Ashton Joseph Ashton 8d 571 CONNOR Joseph Manchester 8d 571 Cummings Ellen Manchester 8d 571 DWYER Edward Manchester 8d 571 Somerville Bridget Manchester 8d 571
Eunice's pairing is correct - see http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference DWYER Edward MARTIN Catherine Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library MCR_RM/71/181
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Eunice
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17 Mar 2015 18:40 |
Thanks again everyone, I am now on with ordering certificates on line :-)
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malyon
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17 Mar 2015 18:58 |
looks like them in 1871 census
Edward Dwyer England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Edward Dwyer Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Male Age: 24 Relationship to Head of Household: Son-In-Law Birthplace: Ireland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Manchester Sub-District: Ancoats Parish: Manchester County: Lancashire Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Margaret Martin Head F 50 Ireland Edward Dwyer Son-In-Law M 24 Ireland Catherine Dwyer Daughter F 24 Manchester Margaret Ann Dwyer Daughter F 0 Manchester
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HeyJudeB4Beatles
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17 Mar 2015 19:04 |
1871 Census
Name: Edward Chayer [Edward Dwyer] Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son-in-law Spouse's Name: Catherine Chayer Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: All Souls Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Household schedule number: 96 Piece: 4032 Folio: 69 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Martin 30 Edward Chayer 24 Catherine Chayer 24 Margaret Ann Chayer 3 Months
Can't find him for sure after though!
Jude
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HeyJudeB4Beatles
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17 Mar 2015 19:07 |
Ha ha Yvonne - SNAP!
Jude
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17 Mar 2015 19:09 |
1881
Name: Edward Dwyer Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Dwyer Gender: Male Where born: Kilkenny, Ireland Civil Parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 33 Monsall St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Slater Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4003 Folio: 114 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Edward Dwyer 35 Mary Dwyer 26 Margaret A. Dwyer 3 John Dwyer 1
Possibly 1891
Name: Edward Dwyer Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Dwyer Gender: Male Where born: Kilkenny, Ireland Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3249 Folio: 66 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Edward Dwyer 44 Mary Dwyer 35 John Dwyer 11 Margaret Dwyer 13 Ellen Dwyer 9 Joseph Dwyer 4 Edmond Dwyer 1 Thos Wm Sheperson 19 John Hyde 24
To fit with marriage to Mary Sullivan
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HeyJudeB4Beatles
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17 Mar 2015 19:17 |
If the above are correct he's dead by 1901
Name: Edmund Dwyer Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Son (Child) Gender: Male Mother: Mary Dwyer Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester Albert Memorial County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3753 Folio: 166 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 56 Household Members: Name Age Mary Dwyer 46 Margaret E Dwyer 23 John Dwyer 21 Ellen Dwyer 19 Joseph Dwyer 14 Edmund Dwyer 11 Alice Dwyer 9 Leo F Dwyer 6
and 1911
Mary dead by then?
Name: Leo Dwyer Age in 1911: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Son (Child) Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: North Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 17 Lilley St Miles Platting Mer Marital Status: Single Occupation: Shop Assistant Registration district: Prestwich Registration District Number: 467 Sub-registration district: Newton Heath ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Piece: 24267 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Dwyer 32 Alice Dwyer 19 Leo Dwyer 16 John McManes 27
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