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Thomas Mintern in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Thomas Mintern
Date of Trial: Apr 1824
Trial Year: 1824
Location of Trial: Hampshire, England
Sentence:Imprisonment 4 Months
Crime: Larceny from a person
Date of Execution or Release:



Thomas Mintern in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name:Thomas Mintern
Date of Trial: Jul 1825
Trial Year: 1825
Location of Trial: Hampshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment 4 Months
Crime: Larceny (Thomas Mintern, for stealing a cheese, 4 months; and his accomplice, Wm.Freak, 2 months_
Date of Execution or Release: See Image



Thomas Mintern in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name:Thomas Mintern
Date of Trial:Summer 1826
Trial Year:1826
Location of Trial:Hampshire, England
Sentence:Transportation 7 years
Crime: Larceny
Date of Execution or Release:

Salisbury and Winchester Journal Wiltshire, England
15 May 1826
Committed to the County Gaol
George Freak and Thomas Mintern for stealing a quantity of potatoes from the barn of Wm Butt of Boldre.

Hampshire Chronicle Hampshire, England
31 Jul 1826
The following convicts convicted at the last Assizes, have been removed from the County Gaol on board the Captivity Hulk at Plymouth.
George Freak and Thomas Mintern--7 years transportation.


Prison ship (Hulk) Registers Transcription
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Mintern
Birth year1802
Age 24
Conviction date 03 Jul 1826
Incarceration year1826
Offence Stealing Potatoes
Sentence 7 years
Where convicted Winchester
County Hampshire
Country England
Hulk Captivity
How and when disposed of: Pardoned October 27 1830
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Thomas Mintern in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Thomas Mintern
Date of Trial:31 Dec 1849
Trial Year: 1849
Location of Trial: Hampshire, England
Sentence:Transportation 7 Years
Crime: Larceny by Servant and Receiving Stolen Goods
Date of Execution or Release:

That marriage looks promising Gritty.

:-)

Dizzi i have aged 10 years in a week!!! :-D

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I see where you are coming from with that 1841 census Mary.

It's on FMP.........but the transcript is a muddle.

On Ancestry...........you need to view the image of William "Winton" 1840 Lymington.

(Mintern on the image.........Lymington Union Workhouse)


William Winton in the 1841 England Census
Name:William Winton
Age:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1840
Gender:Male
Where born:Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Lymington
Hundred:Lymington
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:Lymington
Sub-registration district:Lymington

Elizabeth Minkon 30
John Minton 12
Maria Minton 6
Mary Ann Winton 4
Elizabeth Winton 2
William Winton 1


I will check out that transportation record tomorrow.

Marriage (FMP)?

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name MINTERN
Marriage year 1824
Marriage day 17
Marriage month Mar
Place BOLDRE
Groom's first name Thomas
Groom's last name Mintern
Bride's first name Elizabeth
Bride's last name Kemish
Groom's notes
Bride's notes
Parish Boldre
County Hampshire

Mary- this was the 1841 posted

1841
Lymington, Hampshire
Name of Institution: Lymington Union
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 393
Book number 7
Folio number 4
Page number 4

Elizabeth Mintern 30
John Mintern 12
Maria Mintern 6
Mary Ann Mintern 4

all born in county
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Are Maria and Mary Ann on 1841 census with mum Elizabeth??
Could you please post 1841 census.

Has a marriage for Thomas and Elizabeth been found,there was a transportation to Australia for a Thomas Mintern.Was it the same guy??

Maryb

Edit got them now
1841 lymington workhouse
Elizabeth Minkon 30
John Minton 12
Maria 6
Mary Ann Winton 4
Elizabeth Winton 2
William Winton 1

No wonder I couldn't find them!!

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Hello Marg

As you can see, this thread has become even more confusing.

I got side-tracked by the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in the 1861 census.

I am of the opinion now that the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in 1861, is a Red Herring and purely coincidental. I think we can happily rule her out now.

Even more coincidental.......because Mary Ann Mintern's mother remarried a James Scott!

So what we have is.........

Mary Ann Mintern born abt 1837.......with Mother Elizabeth on the 1841 census.

There is no baptism that I can see for Mary.......however, there is a baptism for Sister Maria and if they had the same Father.......He is Thomas Mintern.

Mother Elizabeth Mintern born abt 1805 Boldre, Hampshire......remarried James Scott in Lymington 1847.

1824 Possible marriage Thomas Mintern to Elizabeth Kernish

I can't find Mary Ann Mintern on the 1851 census.

1859.......Mary Ann Mintern marries George White.

1861......Mary Ann White with husband George in Lymington.

(George possibly dies in 1861)

1871.......Mary is in the Lymington Union Workhouse.

1881.......Mary is living as wife to Stephen Warn Munden.

Amen! :-D

This is the link to the GRO...."General Registers Office" if you want to purchase certificates online..........

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You will be asked if you know the GRO reference?

The GRO reference is the Volume (Vol) and Page (Pg) numbers.

Prickles. x

Maria Mintern married in 1867.........


Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
GATES Charles Lymington 2b 749 .....(Vol 2b Pg 749)
MINTERN Maria Lymington 2b 749

Elizabeth Scott (Mintern) lived to the ripe old age of 91.

Elizabeth Scott in the 1891 England Census

Name:Elizabeth Scott
Age:87
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1804
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born: Beaulieu Rails, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Boldre
Ecclesiastical parish:Boldre
Town:Pilley
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:Lymington

Household Members:

Elizabeth Scott 87 (Widow)
Vincent Scott 13 (Grandson) Pilley Hampshire


Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
SCOTT Elizabeth 91 Lymington 2b 379


She is also a widow in 1881.......

Elizabeth Scott in the 1881 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Scott
Age:76
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1805
Relationship to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Boldre
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Street address: Rossen Gutter
Marital Status:
Windower (Widower)
Occupation:No Occupation
Registration district:Lymington
Sub registration district:Lymington

Household Members:

Elizabeth Scott 76
Dorcus Clark 20 (Lodger)


Name:James Scott
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1793
Registration Year:1873
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 80
Registration district:Lymington
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2b
Page:344

The only census I am missing is......

Mary Ann Mintern in 1851.

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J/F/M 1860 New forest
James Scott to Marianne Corbin V2b P735

Maryb.

It has only taken me almost 4 hrs...... :-D but I am of the opinion now that the Mary Ann Scott who appears with the Munden's in 1861, is possibly a Red Herring and purely coincidental.

??

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bucklershard, Beaulieu, New Forest, Hampshire, England

William Corbyn Head - Male 73 1798 - Hampshire, England
Anne Corbyn Wife - Female 70 1801 - Hampshire, England
Mary A Scott Daughter - Female 34 1837 - Hampshire, England (Married)
Annie Scott Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Hampshire, England

(Other census records show that the surname is "Corbin")

No marriage though for a James Scott to a Mary Ann Corbin :-P

I will be back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is the 1861 census........

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Name:Mary A Scott
Age:24
Estimated Birth Year:1837
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Beaulieu
Ecclesiastical parish:Beaulieu
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:New Forest
Sub-registration district:Fawley

Samuel Munden 57
Lucy Munden 53
Stephen Munden 22 <<<< Who Mary Ann is with in 1881
James Munden 16
Lucy Munden 15
Susanna Munden 12
Emma Munden 10
Mary A Scott Lodger Married Female 24 1837 Wife Of James Scott Sailor Boldre, Hampshire

:-S :-S

James Scott in the 1861 England Census
Name:James Scott
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:1836
Relation:Ab (Seaman)
Gender:Male
Where born:Leamington, Hampshire, England (Possibly Lymington)
Civil Parish:Vessels
Town:Victoria Harbour Hong Kong
County/Island:Royal Navy
Country:England
ED, institution, or vessel: Algerine

James Scott 25 AB Married

I am not seeing an appropriate marriage for a James Scott to Mary Ann.

I wonder if James Scott is Mary Ann's step brother who appears in the 1851 census.

This is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole! :-| :-D

Hi Mary...........I found that census earlier.

I thought perhaps Mary Ann Mintern.......might appear as Mary Ann Scott in the 1851 census.

And then I came across that 1861 census......... that is when I needed to lie down in a dark room. :-S :

Thank you for posting Mary. x

1861Bealieu D7>21
Mary Ann Scott lodger born @ 1837 Boldre view original and it says she is the wife of James Scott a sailor.
She is at the home of Stephen Munden and his parents.

1861 Hong kong
James Scott married born Boldre 1836

Maryb.

No - get your own....it's all mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-P

Seriously the repetitions of White and Mintern have got to be significant. It's just weaving your way through it!

Jude

Pass the wine Jude.

;-)

Off to get bladdered!

:-D

Gritty.........you haven't made it worse at all.

We are both on the same wavelength and I really appreciate your contribution.

A very big thank you to you for your time.

Prickles. x