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12 Mar 2015 19:27 |
Oh wow! So much information. Has made my day and will keep me busy :-). Thank you again. It shows me just how little I know about researching :-(
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12 Mar 2015 16:06 |
Thank you everyone for all your help. It will take me ages to digest all this new information. Really grateful to all the lovely people on this site.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 15:42 |
More children to Peter and sarah Ann Sammers parents of John who married Maria.
Peter Sammer
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammer child: Edward Sammer Peter Sammer
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammer child: Elizabeth Sammer Peter Sammer
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammer child: James Sammer Peter Sammer
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammer child: Stephen Sammer Peter Sammers
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammers child: William Sammers Peter Sammers
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England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Sarah Sammers child: John Sammers
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12 Mar 2015 15:30 |
Parents of John Sammers 1780
First name(s) Peter Last name Sammers Marriage year 1778 Marriage day 3 Marriage month Nov Place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Browning Groom's parish Challock Bride's parish Challock County Kent Country England Archive reference U3/27/1/5 Year range 1754-1817 Page 17 Record set Canterbury Marriages
Witnesses Edward Browning and Thomas Hodgisson?
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12 Mar 2015 15:24 |
Now here’s an interesting thing. Remember how John Sammers’ father is named Peter? He was the witness to this marriage First name(s) Ann Last name Summer Marriage year 1801 Marriage day 21 Marriage month Nov Place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian Spouse's first name(s) Edward**** Spouse's last name Sole**** Groom's parish Challock Bride's parish Challock County Kent Country England Archive reference U3/27/1/5 Year range 1754-1817 Page 31 Record set Canterbury Marriages
Previously posted was the marriage of Sarah Ann Sammers to John Sole
First name(s) Sarah Ann Last name Sammers Birth year 1823 Marriage year 1842 Marriage day 11 Marriage month Jun Place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Sole Groom's father's first name(s) Edward*** Groom's father's last name Sole*** Bride's age 19 Bride's father's first name(s) John Bride's father's last name Sammers County Kent Country England Archive reference U3/27/1/7 Year range 1837-1928 Page 8
Spotted who John Sole’s father was?? So would that make John and Sarah Ann cousins?
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12 Mar 2015 15:03 |
First name(s) John Last name Sammers Birth year 1778 Death year 1847 Age 69 Burial year 1847 Burial day 21 Burial month May Burial place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian County Kent Archive reference U3/27/1/12 Page 26 Year range 1813-1980 Record set Canterbury Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
Of Challock Parish but died in died at the Wilsborough Union (sic - workhouse?). Buried 21 May 1847 age 69
On the same image are burials for Charlotte Sammers buried 10 Oct 1847 age 20 Ann Marie Sammer buried 20 Oct 1847 Infant.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:57 |
Two more children for John and Maria and William 1819 had a daughter called Charlotte maybe after his siter?
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Father John Sammer
spouse: Maria Sammer
child: Sarah Anne Sammer
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Father John Sammers spouse: Maria Sammers
child: Charlotte Sammers
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:54 |
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
John Sammers christening: 9 July 1780********************** Challock, Kent, England father: Peter Sammers**************** mother: Sarah Sammers********************
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12 Mar 2015 14:50 |
Dawn - the image on FMP for the baptism states that 9 Apr 1819 was when he was baptised. There is no mention of his date of birth. His father John was a labourer.
Good find though! :-D
Added - ditto the death. Its actually the date of burial. He was aged 70 Without checking, the other dates are likely to be the date of Baptism (unless that was actually noted on the register) or date of Burial
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12 Mar 2015 14:46 |
Hi William Sammers born 09.04.1819 in Molash died 27.01.1888 in Challock. Parents:- John Sammers born 09.07.1780 in Challock died 1847 in Challock. & Maria Waddle born c1890 died 26.09.1845 in Challock. They were married 08.09.1816 in Westwell, Kent.
Dawn
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:45 |
Both were born in the county on the 1841 I just put up.
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12 Mar 2015 14:45 |
Canterbury Marriages Transcription
First name(s) William Last name Sammers Marriage year 1842 Marriage day 11 Marriage month Jun Place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian Spouse's first name(s) Eliz Spouse's last name Amos Groom's father's first name(s) John Groom's father's last name Sammers County Kent Country England Archive reference U3/27/1/7 Year range 1837-1928 Page 8 Record set Canterbury Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
(find my past)
So at least we can confirm that his father was called John
Added - a double wedding with a sister?
First name(s) Sarah Ann Last name Sammers Birth year 1823 Marriage year 1842 Marriage day 11 Marriage month Jun Place Challock, SS Cosmas & Damian Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Sole Groom's father's first name(s) Edward Groom's father's last name Sole Bride's age 19 Bride's father's first name(s) John Bride's father's last name Sammers County Kent Country England Archive reference U3/27/1/7 Year range 1837-1928 Page 8 Record set Canterbury Marriages
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:44 |
This looks like it could be him with his mother.
Name: William Sammers Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Rolvenden Hundred: Rolvenden County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Registration district: Tenterden Sub-registration district: Rolvenden Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 475 Book: 12 Folio: 54 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Weston 45 Sarah Weston 45 Caroline Weston 15 Ellen Weston 10 William Weston 6 Maria Sammers 40************************ William Sammers 20*************************** Richard Barnes 1
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:41 |
Name: William Sammon [William Summers/Sammers] Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Sammon Gender: Male Where born: Moldash, Kent, England Civil Parish: Challock County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Registration district: East Ashford Sub-registration district: Wye ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Piece: 516 Folio: 83 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Sammon 42 Elizabeth Sammon 48 John Sammon 13 George Sammon 11 Frederic Sammon 9 Charlotte Sammon 6 Walter Sammon 3 Anne Sammon 1
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Jill
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12 Mar 2015 14:41 |
Thank you very much. I am finding it confusing when his name keeps changing!
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:39 |
As his first child wass John I should think this could be right as they had naming patterns back in those days.
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Jill
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12 Mar 2015 14:38 |
Thank you very much. I am finding it confusing when his name keeps changing!
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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12 Mar 2015 14:38 |
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Name: William Sammer Gender: Male Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1819 Baptism Place: Molash, Kent, England Father: John Sammer Mother: Maria Sammer FHL Film Number: 1835505 Reference ID: item 3
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12 Mar 2015 14:36 |
Presumably him?
Name: Walter Austin Sammer Gender: Male Baptism Date: 28 Jun 1857 Baptism Place: Challock, Kent, England Father: William Sammer Mother: Elizabeth Sammer FHL Film Number: 1786210
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Jill
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12 Mar 2015 14:34 |
Yes I have as well. Thank you for looking
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