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Eleanor Elizabeth Barwis.

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Linda

Linda Report 8 Mar 2015 17:31

Eleanor Elizabeth Barwis. born 1905 in Plymouth Devon
Is there anybody out there related to this lady? My search says not.

Gritty

Gritty Report 8 Mar 2015 17:40

Marriage:

Eleanor E Barwis
Spouse : Hector R Hurrell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1924
Registration district: Devonport
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 745

I see 3 possible births (Daughters) to this marriage- have you followed up on these? There are possible marriages for the daughters and entries on current electoral register.

Family moved to Nottingham:

Death:
Name: Eleanor Elizabeth Hurrell
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1905
Date of Registration: Mar 1973
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 157

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2015 17:42

What research have you already done Linda? What do you already know?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
54 Townshend Avenue Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Harry Barwis Head Married Male 50 1861 Cornwall Mylor Bridge Naval Pensioner Stoker Steamboat
Hannah Maria Barwis Wife Married Female 43 1868 Cornwall Flushing -
Gwendoline Barwis Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Devon Devonport Dresskmaker Apprentice
Harry Lawrence Cantell Barwis Son Single Male 11 1900 Devon Devonport School
Eleanor Elizabeth Barwis Daughter Single Female 5 1906 Devon Devonport School

Married 23 years 3 children born and 3 still living, so those are showing on the census.

Look for marriages of those children and offspring from those marriages - are none showing?

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2015 17:48

Harry and Hannah's marriage cert. is on FMP - Devon marriages image. 22 January 1888 at St James The Great, Devonport

Harry's Father shown as Robert Barwis a Pilot (expect as in Ship's pilot) and Hannah's Father as William Henry Cantell a Mariner, so possible to check for their siblings to find Aunts' Uncles, Cousins etc

Not seeing a marriage for Harry Lawrence b 1900 in England/Wales

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2015 17:53

Possible death?

Eleanor Elizabeth Hurrell

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Record Image View

Name: Eleanor Elizabeth Hurrell
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1905
Date of Registration: Mar 1973
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 157

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2015 17:54

Gwendoline is not showing with a middle initial on the census, but the only birth to fit shows Gwendoline Muriel Barwis 1894 Stoke Damerel, Devon

??so this marriage - there is only a transcription on FMP, no image

Devon Marriages Transcription
Print transcription Attach to tree
First name(s) Gwendoline Muriel
Last name Barwis
Marriage year 1915
Marriage date 30 Sep 1915
Parish St Mark
Place Devonport, St Mark, Ford
Spouse's first name(s) Reginald Henry Thomas
Spouse's last name Knapman
City or town Devonport
County Devon

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2015 17:57

One child showing from that marriage

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) ROMA G
Last name KNAPMAN
Birth year 1917
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name BARWIS
District DEVONPORT
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 414

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2015 18:02

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
Print transcription View image Attach to tree
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
First name(s) ROMA G
Last name KNAPMAN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1942
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROMA G KNAPMAN married
JACK D SCHOFIELD
Spouse's last name SCHOFIELD
District CREWE
District number -
County Cheshire
Country England
Volume 8A
Page 1115
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?? and this death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ROMA GWENDOLINE
Last name SCHOFIELD
Gender Female
Birth day 4
Birth month 3
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2000
District WORCESTER
District number 5271B
Register number B69E
Entry number 025
Date of registration mm/yy 1000
County Worcestershire

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Not seeing England/Wales births under Schofield/Barwis

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2015 18:10

Brother Harry, doesn't mention a wife:

BARWIS, HARRY LAURENCE CANTELLRank:Chief Petty Officer WriterService No:D/M 26640Date of Death:10/12/1941Age:42Regiment/Service:Royal Navy H.M.S. Repulse Panel Reference:Panel 55, Column 1.Memorial:PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIALAdditional Information:Son of Harry and Hannah Maria Barwis, of Welling, Kent.

Probate only mentions parents and not a wife.

malyon

malyon Report 9 Mar 2015 12:34

hi
3 children girls born to marriage of barwis and hurrell in devon

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Mar 2015 13:36

I'll remind Linda of how to find her replies :-)

Linda

Linda Report 9 Mar 2015 18:18

Thanks folks for all the in fo you sent. The lady in question s my mother and I wondered if there were any relatives out the about. Gwen and Ella had a brother Laurence who was drowned when the Repulse went down and I thought there may be some one there also Great Aunt Janey (Maria Barwis's sister) had 18 children and I kinow next to nothing about them. Thanks for your interest Linda Gwen Hurrell

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Mar 2015 10:23

"Janey" looks to have been registered as Elizabeth Jane and married under that name

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH JANE
Last name CANTELL
Birth year 1872
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District FALMOUTH
County Cornwall
Country England
Volume 5C
Page 190

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH JANE
Last name CANTELL
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1893
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH JANE CANTELL married one of these people
RICHARD JAMES GILBERT, ALFRED REEP
Spouse's last name -
District STOKE DAMEREL
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 734

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Mar 2015 10:31

It's unlikely that anyone related will just come across your thread - you need to be pro active and seek matches and information.

Go to Search at the top of the page and the Search All Members trees. Input the details you have and if there are matches the system will throw them up. Apart from yourself there are other people researching the family and you can then contact them.

Also use the free website http://www.freebmd.org.uk to check for bmd's from Q3 1837 to around 1960 or so (ongoing project to 1984 eventually)

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Mar 2015 10:47

Sorry, I jumped ahead there. Hannah Maria Cantell married Harry Barwis

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
BARWIS Harry Stoke D. 5b 503 <<<<<<<<<
CANTELL Hannah Maria Stoke D. 5b 503 <<<<<<<<
CAUTELL Hannah Maria Stoke D. 5b 503
CREWS William Henry Stoke D. 5b 503
Furneaux Emma Stoke D. 5b 503

and the 1881 census puts (Hannah) Maria and (Elizabeth) Jane Cantell together

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28, St Johns Place, Mylor, Falmouth, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Condict Head Widow Female 71 1810 Laundress Gerrans, Cornwall, England
Maria Cantell Grand Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Flushing, Cornwall, England
Jane Cantell Grand Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Flushing, Cornwall, England

Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2315
Folio 6
Page 6

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Mar 2015 10:55

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25 Barton Avenue Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Gilbert Head Married Male 39 1872 Porthleven Cornwall Chief Petty Officer
Elizabeth Jane Gilbert Wife Married Female 39 1872 Flushing Parish of Mylor Cornwall -
John Henry Gilbert Son - Male 14 1897 Flushing Parish of Mylor Cornwall School
Vernon Hodge Neohew Single Male 15 1896 Devonport Devon School

Married 17 years 2 children born and 2 still living <<<<<<<<<<<<

Other child Reginald J b1895 Flushing according to 1901 census

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Mar 2015 11:42

1911 census shows Maria and Janes' parents still alive.
England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
86 Station Road Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Benjamin A M Hodge Head Married Male 50 1861 Mylor Cornwall Carpenter R N
Lucy A P Hodge Wife Married Female 48 1863 Mylor Cornwall House -Keeper
Dorothy Hodge Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Devonport Devon Assisting Her Mother
Muriel Hodge Daughter - Female 12 1899 Devonport Devon School
Stella Hodge Daughter - Female 10 1901 Devonport Devon School
William H Cantell Visitor Married Male 72 1839 Itchen Ferry Hampshire Retired Captain M N
Elizabeth Cantell Visitor Married Female 69 1842 Mylor Cornwall Housekeeper

State married 50 years (so c1860) - 9 children born, 6 still living

but GRO record shows 1869

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
CANTELL William Henry Falmouth 5c 318
CANTWELL William Henry Falmouth 5c 318
CONDICT Elizabeth Falmouth 5c 318
Millett Ursula Falmouth 5c 318
RUSDEN Richard Lowry Falmouth 5c 318