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Welcome to the world of finding Ernle Drake. I'm no further forward on him after about 6 years of trying.

Henry Ernle is an interesting character - got hold of a copy of the Coastguard records from the National Archive after I found him residing on HMS Beagle (of Darwin fame) in Pagglesham Bay in Essex in the 1951 census, found he had been in the Coastguard in various roles after leaving the Navy, At the time of the 1841 census he was serving aboard ship off the coast of china (at that time HM ships crew were not included in the census).

Ernle Drake is my 3rd great grandfather on my paternal side.

Thankyou for all the help you've given. Still no luck finding Henrys mum or any other information on his dad Ernle Drake.

HMS Blonde was involved in a number of actions in China during the First Opium War (1839–1842)


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Blonde_%281819%29

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Henry Ernle
Last name Drake
Name note -
Marriage year 1845
Marriage date 21 Jul 1845
Marriage place Cheshunt, Hertford, England
Father's first name(s) Ernle
Father's last name Drake
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Stuart
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Stuart
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Place Cheshunt
County Hertfordshire


It most definitely reads Ernle on England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription.


Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
First name(s) HENRY ERNLE
Last name DRAKE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1845
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HENRY ERNLE DRAKE married one of these people
MARY ANN STUART, JANE PERRY, MATILDA VANDERSTAGEN ALVEN, ELLEN WALLIN
Spouse's last name -
District EDMONTON
District number -
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3
Page 93





A tree on ancestry has this for him in 1840.


Military
1840 Age: 23
China



Name: Henry Drake
Medal or Award: China Medal
Service Year: 1840-1842
Service Location: China
Campaign or Service: First China War
Ship Name: Blonde




That would be for this man.


Henry Drake

in the UK, Naval Officer and Rating Service Records, 1802-1919
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Name: Henry Drake
Birth Date: abt 1817
Gender: Male
Age at Start of Service: 20
First Service Date: 16 Jun 1837
First Ship Served On: Hercules
Last Service Date: 26 Jul 1860
Last Ship Served On: Coast Guard
Record Type: Entry Books of Certificates
Date Range: 1870 Jun - 1872 Aug


He was a Boatman.

His first ship was 'Hercules' where he was down as H E Drake. From 16 June 1837 - 20 Nov '39. He was an Ard?
He was on the 'Blonde' from 3 Dec '39- 31 Dec '43 as an Ard? then again from 1 Jan'43 - 23 Mar '43 as a Barber.
Coastguard between 27 Sept '46 and 7 Mar '54 as a Boatman.
Euryalus between 8 Mar '54 and 1 May '56 as A.B.
Coastguard between 2 May '56 and 20 Aug '56 as a Boatman.
Coastguard 21 Aug '56 and 26 July '60 as a Comd. Btn ?

Just for ref some of the info here has already been posted on another thread ( which Kirsti added to )

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1316988?page=1

You'll need the ref details below to order the marriage certificate from the GRO


Marriages Sep 1845


Drake Henry Ernle Edmonton 3 93
Stuart Mary Ann Edmonton 3 93


The prison record may or may not be your Henry?

I should be able to buy a copy of the marriage certificate?
Oh wow I didn't realise Henry went to Prison!

He could have been in prison



Name:Henry Drake

Age:19

Estimated birth year:abt 1816

Date of Trial:17 Feb 1835

Trial Year1835

Location of Trial:Essex, England

Sentence:Imprisonment 1 year embezzlement

You really need the marriage cert

Yes it is possible that the Ernle is Emile?

The earliest census I have found is 1851

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Henry Drake
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Henry Drake
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Bath, Somersetshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Sub-District: St James
Parish: Bermondsey
County: London, Surrey
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Henry Drake Self M 54 Bath, Somersetshire
Mary Ann Drake Wife F 49 Scotland
Edith J Drake Daughter F 18 Palesham, Essex
Mary Ann Drake Daughter F 20 Palesham, Essex
Ellen Drake Daughter F 17 Palesham, Essex
Sushanna Drake Daughter F 14 Little Wakering, Essex
Edgar Drake Son M 11 Little Wakering, Essex
Alfred Drake Son M 8 West Drayton, Middlesex
Charles Drake Son M 6 West Drayton, Middlesex
George Smith Visitor M 24 Scotland

Henry E Drake
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Henry E Drake
Age (Original): 64
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1817
Birthplace: Bath, Somerset, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Address: 10 Anchor St
Event Place: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 573 / 97
Page Number: 69
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Henry E Drake Head M 64 Bath, Somerset, England
Mary A Drake Wife F 58 Scotland
William Drake Son M 28 Paglesham, Essex, England
Edgar Drake Son M 21 Wakering Haven, Essex, England
Alfred Drake Son M 18 West Drayton, Middlesex, England
Charles Drake Son M 17 West Drayton, Middlesex, England

Thankyou all for your replies so far!

I have the index only Marriage 21st Jul 1845

Henry is listed as a Henry Ernle Drake
His father is listed as Ernle Drake
Spouse is listed as Mary Ann Stuart and her father John Stuart

Could'nt Ernle be mistranscribed and it be Emile??????

Really need some info from the marriage cert

Fathers name and occupation
Witnesses

Just been through every batch of christenings listed as Bath on Hugh Wallis Batch Numbers and not found anything

Also did the marriage batches and not found any christian name, or anything similar, as given on marriage record

In case the same person

First name(s) HENRY
Last name Drake
Age -
Birth year 1817
Birth day 09
Birth month 11
Birth place Bath
Birth county Somersetshire
Place BATH
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number -
Card type -
Date range 1845-1854
Series BT113
Piece number 29
Record set Merchant Navy Seamen
Category Education & work
Record collection Merchant navy & maritime

Does have middle initial of E on record
Dated 1837
The document was done at Maldon in 1846 says he resides at Cheshunt when unemployed

Marriages & Marriage Licences (1538 - 1922)

Henry Earle Drake of Cheshunt
Mary Ann Stuart of Cheshunt
Cheshunt 21 Jul 1845

http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/

(as above, Names Online)

Chris :)

Hertfordshire Marriage Banns Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) HENRY ERNLE
Last name DRAKE
Banns year 1845 (6th 13th 20th July)
Place Cheshunt

Looking at his occupation of boatman coast guard in 1851 he could well have been in Scotland for the 1841 census