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ArgyllGran
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3 Mar 2015 12:19 |
Oh, I see - I have misunderstood the tree on Ancestry. It has Daisy listed below Alice, so I assumed Daisy was the second wife. There's no date given for marriage to Alice.
The tree says he was also married to Alice Ellen L Eldridge, born 1898 England, died 1961 Canada. No proofs offered to back it up.
(There are actually several trees listing the family.)
This is presumably her birth: Births Sep 1898 (>99%) Eldridge Alice Ellen L Islington 1b 279
However: another tree shows not only Benjamin's 2 marriages, but also four children with Alice, born 1925, 1927, 1931, and 1933 (I won't put their names here, as they may still be alive) - three daughters, one son, all with middle name Glossop - so Alice must have been his second wife, after divorce from Daisy.
According to the tree, this is Alice's arrival in Canada: Alice Eldridge in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Alice Eldridge Age: 8 Birth Year: abt 1898 Date of Arrival: 11 Mar 1906 Vessel: Lake Erie Search Ship Database: Search for the Lake Erie in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick, Canada Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
And in 1911: Alice Eldridge in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Alice Eldridge Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 13 Birth Date: Jun 1898 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's name: Samuel Eldridge Mother's name: Clara Eldridge Immigration Year: 1896 Race or Tribe: English Province: Ontario District: Durham District Number: 64 Sub-District: 45 Sub-District Number: 45 Place of Habitation: Elgin St Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Eldridge 33 Clara Eldridge 32 Alice Eldridge 13 George Eldridge 11 Florence Eldridge 9 Charles Eldridge 7 Samuel Eldridge 3 Gertrude Eldridge 1
On the face of it, this would appear to be them in 1921, but the child is not one named on the Ancestry trees - perhaps she died in infancy:
B G England in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: B G England Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 34 Birth Year: abt 1887 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Alie E L England Father Birth Place: England Mother Birth Place: England Year of Immigration: 1914 ??????????????? Racial or Tribal Origin: English Province or Territory: Ontario District: Northumberland District Number: 107 Sub-District: Cobourg (Town) Sub-District Number: 56 City, Town or Village: Cobourg Town Street or Township: King St Municipality: Cobourg Occupation: Merchant Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age B G England 34 Alie E L England 22 - born England Hazel L England 1 - born Ontario
EDIT: Yet another tree does list Hazel as one of the children - total of 7 children. It says Hazel married James Irvine, but give no dates or places of any sort for either of them.
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 22:20 |
Just noticed that you can see a copy of the original marriage record on familysearch.org Gives more details:- 1st marriage for both Benjamin and Daisy Occupation:- Benjamin (Machinist) Daisy (Waitress) Address:- Benjamin - 17 Carlton Street, Somerville Daisy - 2 Washington Avenue, Somerville Ages:- Benjamin (25yrs) Daisy (19yrs)
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ArgyllGran
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1 Mar 2015 21:19 |
Re the death record in Orange County, the DOB given there also fits with her birth - by the time her birth was registered, it could have been into the 1st quarter of 1896:
Births Mar 1896 (>99%) Hague Daisy Annie Ecclesall B. 9c 409
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:56 |
Wonder if this is her???
Daisy A England Canada Passenger Lists Name: Daisy A England Event Type: Immigration Event Date: Nov 1914 Event Place: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Gender: Female Birthplace: England Ship Name: Carthaginian Affiliate Film Number: T-4754 , Digital Folder Number: 004543289 , Image Number: 00245
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ArgyllGran
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1 Mar 2015 17:47 |
This looks like her (remarried) on Ancestry, assuming the DOD given earlier is correct. Mother's ms could be correct, per parents' marriage posted above, by Catherine:
Daisy A Whitefield
in the California, Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Daisy A Whitefield Social Security #: 570148712 Gender: Female Birth Date: 6 Dec 1895 Death Date: 14 Dec 1965 Death Place: Orange Mother's Maiden Name: Hoskney
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:44 |
This may be relevant????
Name: Benjamin Elosop England (original does look to be Glossop) Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Apr 1888 Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorks Service number: 234395 First Service Date: 21 Aug 1905 First Ship Served On: Boscawen III Last Service Date: 17 Mar 1913 Last Ship Served On: Calypso
Gives his occupation as Blacksmith
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:38 |
Just as a matter of interest;-
1901
Name: Benjamin G England Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Henry England Mother: Agnes E England Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 55 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4355 Folio: 96 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Henry England 43 Agnes E England 43 William H England 17 Joseph E England 15 Benjamin G England 12 Agnes A England 11 Percy England 5
1911 Name: Henry England Age in 1911: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 102 Chipping House Road Sheffield Marital Status: Married Occupation: Clothier, Dealer Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Registration District Number: 509 Sub-registration district: Sharrow ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Piece: 27825 Household Members: Name Age Henry England 54 (Clothier Dealer) Agnes Ellen England 56 William Henry England 27 Joseph Edward England 25 Agnes Annie England 21 Percy England 15 Maud May Haggie Hill 24 - Adopted daughter
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ArgyllGran
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1 Mar 2015 17:32 |
A tree on Ancestry says Benjamin was born 1888 Yorkshire, and his marriage to Daisy was his second. It says Daisy died 14 December 1965, in Orange County, California.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Mar 2015 17:23 |
??? Long shot:
Annie England
in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Name: Annie England Gender: Female Residence Year: 1914 Street address: flat 2 720 W 9th Residence Place: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Spouse: Benjamin England Publication Title: Cincinnati, Ohio, City Directory, 1914
Annie England
in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Name: Annie England Gender: Female Residence Year: 1915 Street address: flat 2 i-0 XV 9th Residence Place: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Spouse: Benjamin England Publication Title: Cincinnati, Ohio, City Directory, 1915
Annie England
in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Name: Annie England Gender: Female Residence Year: 1916 Street address: 720 W 9th Residence Place: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Spouse: Benjamin England Publication Title: Cincinnati, Ohio, City Directory, 1916
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:19 |
Parents marriage:-
Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%) Christie Alexander Sheffield 9c 616 xxxxx Hague Francis Sheffield 9c 616 xxxxx Hockney Sarah Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 616 Jones Mary Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 616
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:14 |
Name: Daisy Annie Hague Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 County: Durham Parish: South Shields Sub-District: South Shields Registration District: South Shields Gender: Female Age: 15 Birthplace: Sheffield, Yorkshire Record Type: Household
Name: Daisy Annie Hague Age in 1911: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Step Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: South Shields County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 6 Kingston Cottages, So Shields Durham Marital Status: Single Occupation: Bisenit Packer Registration district: South Shields Registration District Number: 556 Sub-registration district: South Shields ED, institution, or vessel: 76 Piece: 30335 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Anderson 41 Sarah Elizabeth Anderson 39 Elain Anderson 4 Daisy Annie Hague 15 Richard Mather 17
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Catherine
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1 Mar 2015 17:12 |
Daisy Annie Hague birth: 1894 Sheffield, , England
mentioned in the record of Benjamin Glossop England and Daisy Annie Hague
Name: Benjamin Glossop England Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 18 Oct 1913 Event Place: Somerville, , Massachusetts Gender: Male Age: 25 Birth Date: 1888 Birthplace: Sheffield, , England Registration Place: Somerville, , Massachusetts Birth Year (Estimated): 1888 Father's Name: Henry England Mother's Name: Agnes E Glossop Spouse's Name: Daisy Annie Hague Spouse's Father's Name: Francis Hague Spouse's Mother's Name: Sarah E Hockney Certificate Number: 19500 Number of Images: 1 GS Film number: 2409945 , Digital Folder Number: 4329370 , Image Number: 01202
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Gordon
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1 Mar 2015 17:01 |
I am looking for info on the above. Last information was a marriage in 1913 in Somerville Mass.
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