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Help in Westmorland/Cumberland Please

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Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2015 20:40

Misty,
I have a great memory for faces and places :-), but absolutely useless with names and dates :-S. I suppose we all have our strong points and weaknesses.
Catherine x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 16:43

Oh yes Catherine, that could well be him....

It's so silly.....I remember knowing he had died, was cremated, ashes kept in the inglenook room until they were scattered on one of the farm fields.....I even remember the field name but can I recall the year....no!!

Mistyx

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2015 16:21

Wonder if this is him????

Name: John James Ellis
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1890
Date of Registration: Dec 1973
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Westmorland South
Inferred County: Westmorland
Volume: 1b
Page: 1586

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 16:12

No death for John either at this stage but he too was alive in 1972.....Edith definitely didn't remarry, John wouldn't have either, I would have known about that....

Mistyx

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2015 16:06

If you can't find a death for Edith, then is it possible that she remarried after the death of John.
Do you have a death for him?

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 16:03

Thank you for census Catherine, don't know how I missed those!!

Jacqueline....you could well be right, I remember one of Johns brothers so followed him through that route, did hope for the same with Edith but if that is her on the census 1901/1911 then nothing rings a bell.....

Guess the marriage cert is on the cards

Thank you both

Mistyx



Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Feb 2015 15:51

Until you know how old she was when she married, you're guessing

And if you aren't sure if you're connected, you may have the wrong marriage as well

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 15:48

Hi Catherine

I'm doing this because of a feeling I've had for many years....details are to personal to go into on an open forum....what I'm fishing for.... to see if this family is connected to mine....

I guess I shall end up buying the marriage cert, simply didn't want to on a whim....

Thought someone with far more eagle eyes than me might be able to spot something I've missed

Mistyx

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2015 15:40

This one is Wigton????

Name: Edith Bowes
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Isaac Bowes
Mother: Elizabeth Bowes
Birth Place: Ireby, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Low Ireby
Ecclesiastical parish: Ireby St James
Town: Low Ireby
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Caldbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4877
Folio: 38
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 77
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Bowes 38
Elizabeth Bowes 44
Hannah Robinson 21
Alfred Bowes 12
Minnie Bowes 11
A Robinson Bowes 9
Edith Bowes 7
John Bowes 4
Richard B Bowes 1


...........looks to be the same one in 1911

Name: Edith Bowes
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Assistant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ireby, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Windermere
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street address: 14 Holly Road, Windermere
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Assistant In Laundry
Registration district: Kendal
Registration District Number: 581
Sub-registration district: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 31615
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Jane Cole 48
Grace Cole 23
Richard Cole 19
Edith Harrison 20
Edith Bowes 17

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2015 15:38

Any reason why you haven't bought the marriage cert. to find out her occupation, father's name and her address at the time of marriage?
I would think this is essential to make sure you have the correct person.

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 15:35

Hi Jacqueline, thanks for help

She 100% lived in Lupton at the time of her death, not sure if she was in hospital when she died, hence Kendal and Lancaster being mentioned.....

Please could you post 1901 census you have....not sure I have the correct birth for her.....

Mistyx

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Feb 2015 15:27

DOB could fit, but location wrong, unless, of course, she moved after you had the card in 1972

First name(s) EDITH
Last name ELLIS
Gender Female
Birth day 20
Birth month 1
Birth year 1894
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1974
District LEEDS
County Yorkshire
Volume 2C
Page 842

...........and assuming you've picked the correct birth, which does, in fact, appear to tally with 1901 census info

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Feb 2015 15:25

First name(s) EDITH
Last name ELLIS
Gender Female
Birth day 19
Birth month 6
Birth year 1894
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1975
District PRESTON & SOUTH RIBBLE
County Lancashire
Volume 40
Page 2156

DOB doesn't fit, but posting for elimination

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Feb 2015 15:22

No deaths for Edith Ellis registered in Westmorland, Cumberland or Cumbria

Cumbria exists only from 1974

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Feb 2015 15:17

Edith is proving hard to pin down, this is what I have on her....... have all info on John, Edith and family after marriage + John before. No marriage/birth certs

This is correct...

Name: Edith Bowes
Spouse Surname: Ellis......John J
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Wigton
Inferred County: Cumberland

Maybe for her birth....

Name: Edith Bowes
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wigton
Inferred County: Cumberland

Her death would have been registered either Kendal, Westmorland or Lancaster, Lancashire...She died after October 1972, I have a card sent from her then.

All Children born Ulverston....was living Lupton, Westmorland/Cumbria when she died

Mistyx