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17 Feb 2015 20:49 |
I have found a Mary Ann Timmins 5yrs old on the 1851 Census as daughter to my ancestor Samuel Timmins b.1803 living in Hargate Lane in the Cronehills area of West Bromwich. The problem I have is I cannot find any further trace of her but there was a Sarah Ann Timmins born in 1846 Baptised at All Saints Church in West Bromwich. On the record she is the daughter of Samuel & Hannah Timmins nee Grice. It could be there was a wrong name of Mary written on the 1851 Census sheets but then I'm only guessing. Can anyone cast any new light on this as I have hit a brick wall in my attempts. Help really appreciated. David Timmins
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Mike *
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17 Feb 2015 21:05 |
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Mary Ann Timmins Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1845 Registration District: West Bromwich County: Staffordshire Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Volume: 18 Page: 521
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Catherine
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17 Feb 2015 21:06 |
This could be Mary Ann:-
Name: Mary Ann Timmins Gender: Female Christening Date: 17 Apr 1844 Christening Place: Sedgley, Stafford, England Birth Date: 23 Jan 1844 Father's Name: Samuel Timmins Mother's Name: Hannah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01763-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1040789 , Reference ID: item 4 p 95
and this looks to be Sarah Ann:-
Name: Sarah Ann Timmins Gender: Female Christening Date: 22 Feb 1846 Christening Place: ALL SAINTS,WEST BROMWICH,STAFFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: Samuel Timmins Mother's Name: Hannah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01024-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 497347, 497348, 497349, 497350, 497351
..........so there does look to be 2 different children.
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malyon
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17 Feb 2015 21:06 |
Mary Ann Timmins England and Wales Census, 1891 Name: Mary Ann Timmins Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: Staffordshire Parish: WEST BROMWICH Ecclesiastical Parish: ALL SAINTS Sub-District: BAKEWELL Registration District: WEST BROMWICH Gender: Female Age: 25 Relationship to Head of Household: Pauper Inmate Birthplace: West Bromwich, Staffordshire Schedule Type: Institution
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17 Feb 2015 21:10 |
1861 The one found by Catherine:
Name: Mary Ann Timmins Age: 16 Estimated birth year: 1845 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Samuel Timmins Mother's name: Harnah Timmins Gender: Female Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Willenhall Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Willenhall ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 44 Piece: 2001 Folio: 82 Page Number: 7
Samuel Timmins 51 Harnah Timmins 49 Samuel Timmins 27 Stephen Timmins 19 Mary Ann Timmins 16 William Timmins 14 Jesse Timmins 11 Rose Hannah Timmins 5
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Mike *
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17 Feb 2015 21:11 |
Yvonne, that Mary Ann would have been born c 1866
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Catherine
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17 Feb 2015 21:15 |
This looks to be the 1851:-
Name: Samuel Timmins Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Timmins Gender: Male Where born: W Bromch, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Hargate Lane
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North ED, institution, or vessel: 1z Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 2026 Folio: 516 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Timmins 51 Hannah Timmins 45 born: W Bromch, Staffordshire, England Noah Timmins 16 born: W Bromch, Staffordshire Rankin Timmins 13 Thomas Timmins 10 David Timmins 7 Mary Ann Timmins 5
...so doesn't seem to fit with the 1861 census.
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Catherine
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17 Feb 2015 21:20 |
1851 family in 1841:-
Name: Saml Timmins Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: West Bromwich Hundred: South Offlow County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Hargate Lane
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 977 Book: 10 Folio: 8 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Saml Timmins 35 Hannah Timmins 35 Luke Timmins 11 Noah Timmins 7 Reuben Timmins 3 Simon Timmins 1
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malyon
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17 Feb 2015 21:24 |
Samuel Timmins mentioned in the record of Samuel Timmins and Hannah Grice Name: Samuel Timmins Spouse's Name: Hannah Grice Event Date: 27 Oct 1823 Event Place: Saint Matthew,Walsall,Stafford,England
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Catherine
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17 Feb 2015 21:26 |
This looks to be the family of Mary Ann from 1861 census in 1851:-
Name: Samuel Timmins Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Timmins Gender: Male Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Sedgley Ecclesiastical parish: Sedgley Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Sedgley ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 2030 Folio: 425 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Timmins 43 Hannah Timmins 39 Samuel Timmins 16 Stephen Timmins 9 xxxx M Ann Timmins 7 xxxx William Timmins 5 Jessy Timmins 2
.................for me these are deffinately 2 different families and just a coincidence that parents are both Samuel and Hannah.
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malyon
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17 Feb 2015 21:29 |
this looks like sarah ann married with her mother hannah
Hannah Timmins England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Hannah Timmins Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 66 Relationship to Head of Household: Mother Birthplace: West Bromwich, Staffordshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: West Bromwich Sub-District: West Bromwich, North-East Parish: West Bromwich County: Staffordshire Household Role Gender Age Birthplace William Cutchley Self M 27 Breslan, Staffordshire Sarah A Cutchley Wife F 25 West Bromwich, Staffordshire John Cutchley Son M 4 West Bromwich, Staffordshire Mary I Chritchley Daughter F 2 West Bromwich, Staffordshire Hannah Timmins Mother F 66 West Bromwich, Staffordshire
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malyon
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17 Feb 2015 21:42 |
hi this could be a death for mary ann no age given so not sure
Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%) TIMMINS Mary Ann W Bromwich 18 441
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Gee
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17 Feb 2015 21:52 |
Name:Mary Timmis
Gender:Female
Age:30
Birth Date:1844
Marriage Date:1874
Marriage Place:Wolstanton, Stafford, England
Father: Samuel Timmis
Spouse: James Walker
FHL Film Number:1517618
Reference ID:2:26PZP6H -------------------------------------------------
1881 England Census
Name: Mary Walker [Mary Timmis]
Age:36
Estimated birth year:abt 1845
Relationship to Head:Daughter
Father: Samuel Timmis
Mother: Ann Timmis
Gender: Female
Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Wheat St
Marital Status: Windower (Widower)
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Cotton Driller
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel:2
Piece:2704 Folio:66 Page Number:30
Samuel Timmis 77 Ann Timmis 68 Mary Walker 36
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malyon
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17 Feb 2015 22:30 |
could this be samuels death
Samuel Timmins England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: Samuel Timmins Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1851 Registration District: West Bromwich County: Staffordshire Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
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