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It seems that at least one other member has Charlotte in her GR tree

Also, make sure that you have all relevant info in your own tree, to enable others to make the link with you if they're looking

Thank you for all this information that has been posted, some I already knew but it confirms I was on the right track. Other bits of information I was not aware of so will add it to my collection. Would love to be in contact with anyone who is also researching this family.

Hello Sue and welcome to the Community boards.




(I'll let Sue know how to find her replies) :-)

Sue, in your post on this link you say James had died by 1891:

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=562&p=localities.britisles.scotland.sti.general

Have you found Charlotte as a widow in 1891?

Possibly this one? She's a widow, though the YOB's a bit out. Charles & Frederick were both boarded out - per 1891's posted earlier by Jacqueline:


Charlotte Campbell

in the 1891 England Census
Name: Charlotte Campbell
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lee
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Blackheath
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 518
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Lindsay 66
Caroline A Lindsay 59
Henry S G Lindsay 33
Lillian S Lindsay 28
Alexander H Lindsay 25
Patrick C N Lindsay 18
James Angus Lindsay 17
Charlotte Campbell 30


I don't see her son James Colin anywhere in 1891 - so far.

James Campbell is such a common name, and as he moved around a lot, he could have died anywhere - you're not going to find his death, I fear.

Blair Lodge was a boarding school at that time:

Later became Scotland's first Borstal, and is now Polmont Young Offenders Institution.

http://www.sps.gov.uk/Corporate/Prisons/Polmont/HMP-YOI-Polmont.aspx

1881 - Charlotte's with her parents - James is at Polmont:

Charlotte Campbell

in the 1881 England Census
Name: Charlotte Campbell
[Charlotte Mortimer]
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Geo.P. Mortimer
Mother: Mary A. Mortimer
Gender: Female
Where born: St Geo E, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 25 Antcliffe St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 473
Folio: 95
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo.P. Mortimer 59
Mary A. Mortimer 59
Harriet Mortimer 16
Charlotte Campbell 23
Chas. M. Campbell


James Campbell in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: James Campbell
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 487
Registration district: Polmont
Civil Parish: Polmont
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Blair Lodge Gatehouse
Occupation: Domestic Servant Coachman
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 105
LINE: 1
Roll: cssct1881_138
Household Members:
Name Age
James Campbell 27
Thomas Morris 26
John D Maxwell 57

This is her and her family in 1861 - confirmed by details taken from marriage cert:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, Antcliff Street, Stepney, Mile End Old Town, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Patmore Head Married Male 44 1817 Carman Stanstead, Essex, England
Sarah Patmore Wife Married Female 57 1804 - Ilford, Essex, England
Joseph Patmore Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Employed In A Warehouse Ilford, Essex, England
Sarah Ann Patmore Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Dressmaker Ilford, Essex, England
Amelia Patmore Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Grace M West Visitor - Female 3 1858 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England

George P Mortimore Head Married Male 38 1823 - Radford, Sussex, England
Mary A Mortimore Wife Married Female 39 1822 Stoker At Custom Store Dartmouth, Sussex, England
Elizabeth A Mortimore Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar St George in the East, Middlesex, England
Marisa E Mortimore Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar St George in the East, Middlesex, England
Louisa Mortimore Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar St George in the East, Middlesex, England
****Charlotte Mortimore Daughter - Female 3 1858 Scholar St George in the East, Middlesex, England
Catherine Mortimore Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Stepney, Middlesex, England

Birth:

Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
Mortimore Charlotte St Geo East 1c 441

Dea x

Her 1st marriage cert puts her at age 22 in 1879, therefore born c 1857.

It looks as though there may be an error on the 1901??

Dea x

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bondend, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Holdsworth Head Married Male 69 1832 Stone Mason Harrogate, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Charlotte Holdsworth Wife Married Female 59 1842 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Colin Campbell Step Son - Male 18 1883 Stone Masons Apprentice Scotland Transcription
Gordon Campbell Step Son - Male 17 1884 Stone Masons Apprentice Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England

Not sure where you found the info that Joseph was 30 years older than Charlotte

I wonder why he said he was born in Scotland?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11 Mornington Cres St Pancras, St Pancras, London, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
- Clints Head Widow Female 54 1857 London Private Means Transcription
Alice Clint Daughter Single Female 34 1877 London Private Means Transcription
Ethel Clint Daughter Single Female 33 1878 London Private Means Transcription
Mary Hamilton Visitor - Female 7 1904 London - Transcription
Thomas Whittaker Boarder Single Male 54 1857 Lancs Welish Sub in Preston Author Photographical Works Transcription
Gordon Campbell Boarder Single Male 27 1884 Sterling Scotland Actor Proffessional Transcription
Theopilus E Samuel Schobs Boarder Single Male 54 1857 Jamaica Resident Doctor Of Medicine And Author Transcription
Patrick Murray Boarder Married Male 35 1876 North Camp Hants Private Means Transcription
Dweny Wildon Boarder Single Male 19 1892 Scarborough Yorks University Student

???

First name(s) FREDERICK GORDON
Last name CAMPBELL
Gender Male
Age 29
Birth year 1884
Occupation FARM LABR
Departure year 1913
Departure day 14
Departure month 5
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port PHILADELPHIA
Destination PHILADELPHIA
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name MERION
Ship official number 115257
Ship master's first name W
Ship master's last name MENDUS
Shipping line AMERICAN
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port PHILADELPHIA
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 15887
Ship registered tonnage 9459
Number of passengers 714
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

AND/OR

CAMPBELL FREDERICK G 1885 1947 1947 Deaths & burials Worth Valley, Yorkshire, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Southbridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick J Wood Head Married Male 42 1849 Carpenter Carshalton, Surrey, England Transcription
Elizabeth Wood Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary A Graves Aunt Widow Female 62 1829 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Emily B Graves Cousin Single Female 25 1866 - Wallington, Surrey, England Transcription
Charles M Campbell Nephew Single Male 10 1881 - Stepney, Middlesex, England



Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)

Mortimore Elizabeth Annie Croydon 2a 389
WOOD Frederick James Croydon 2a 389

Frederick G was boarded out in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Downs, Sutton, Epsom, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Julia Poundford Head Widow Female 38 1853 Charwoman Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Transcription
John D Poundford Son - Male 11 1880 School Boy Cheam, Surrey, England Transcription
Frederick G Campbell Boarder - Male 6 1885 School Boy Middlesex, England Transcription
William Bastin Boarder Widower Male 27 1864 Farm Labourer Devon, England

Sue, do you mean James Campbell was born 1855?

Is it his death you're trying to find out?

My great grandfather was James Campbell born in 1855 Ireland. He married Charlotte Mortimore in London. They had their first child, Charles Mortimore in London in 1881 and the second child, my grandfather James Colin Campbell, at Blair Lodge, Polmont, Stirling, Scotland in 1882 where he was the coachman. In 1884 they had their third son in London, Frederick Gordon Campbell. By 1895 Charlotte had remarried to Joseph Holdsworth, a monumental mason in Knaresborough, Yorkshire who was 30 years her senior. So I am presuming the James Campbell died between 1884 and 1895 somewhere in Scotland or England.

All three sons were actors, Charles went to Hollywood to be in silent films - his last film was "My Fair Lady" and he died in 1966. He went under the name Colin Campbell in Hollywood.

James Colin Campbell went by the name of Colin also, a stage actor. He married Ethel Eastwood in Hull in 1916 and had a son John A Campbell in 1927 but by 1930 he had married my grandmother Alice Maud Carter who was a nurse/midwife in the East End riding her bike - sound familiar?

Frederick Gordon went by the name of Gordon and he was a mobile haberdasher at one stage.

The two youngest sons were also listed as stonemason apprentices in the census due to their mother marrying a stonemason but acting seemed to be their true calling.