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boarder crossing info a little more please

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Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Feb 2015 18:22

Their is a Frank Ferrey on ancestry leaving England and landing Halifax Nova scotia Canada I would be grateful if some one can give me the info to dee if it's my Frank
I don't have world wide

some one on ancestry has him going 1950 but without seeing what it says I don't trust what I see on other trees without checking it first

Thank you

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 18:32

Frank Ferrey

in the Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
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Name: Frank Ferrey
Arrival Date: 6 Oct 1923
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Ship Name: Baltic
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Country: England
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1905
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 4

He's with Emma Ferrey, 53, domestic, he's a clerk. Last permanent address Manchester. Nearest relative her sister, his aunt, Miss (can't make it out?) Frame/Frams?, 60 Park St., Swinton, England. Heading to Macon, Georgia to join her son, his brother Mr. B Ferry, 107 Stonewall Place, Macon. She was born Rochdale, he Manchester.

malyon

malyon Report 11 Feb 2015 18:33


Frank Ferrey
hi
i cannot see one for canada

New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909


Name: Frank Ferrey
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1950
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 44
Birthplace: Britain
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Birth Year (Estimated): 1906

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 18:44

???

Frank Ferrey

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
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Name: Frank Ferrey
Arrival Date: 1 Mar 1950
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Mary in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


He's with Amy, 39, Anthony, 6 and Harold, 2. Address is 16 Caledonia Rd., Asheville, North Carolina.

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Feb 2015 19:04

Thank you for the info

Yes he is mine he is with his Mother ?1923 her age is a bit out so I'll check up on that a bit more
and then 1950 he is with his wife and children which matches what I have but he must have come back as he died in 1963 Barton Lancashire

Sylvia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 19:06

Is this his mother? And did she have a sister Alice?

Edina Ferrey

in the 1930 United States Federal Census
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Name: Edina Ferrey
[Emma Ferrey]
[Elick Ferrey]
Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Sister-in-law
Home in 1930: Macon, Bibb, Georgia
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Stonewall Place
Ward of City: 3 part of
House Number in Cities or Towns: 107
Dwelling Number: 236
Family Number: 266
Age at First Marriage: 25
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1923
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Herburt Loynd 62
Alice Loynd 59
Gerlinda Loynd 35
Lillian B Loynd 31
Agnes Loynd 28
Edina Ferrey 60

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 19:14

Looks like Frank and Emma returned to England in 1931 intending to make England their permanent residence. The're heading to Hazlehurst Cottage, Hazlehurst Rd., Worsley.

Frank Ferrey

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: Frank Ferrey
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 26
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1931
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Homeric
Search Ship Database: Search for the Homeric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 146513

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 19:22

Looks like they returned to England in 1950:

Amy Ferrey

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: Amy Ferrey
Birth Date: abt 1911
Age: 39
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 27 Sep 1950
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Queen Elizabeth
Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Elizabeth in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 166290

She's with Frank, 45, Anthony, 7 and Harold, 3. Heading to 60 Oxford St., Werneth, Oldham.

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Feb 2015 19:32

Could I ask for another world wide look up please the son Emma was going to see died in 1974 on ancestry it has Birth 1896, death 12 Dec 1974 and vital 1964
Residence Asheville Buncombe

Could some one tell me if it has any more details Vital 1964??

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 19:56

Do you have his first name, Sylvia? I think we just have initial B.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 20:00

Bernard Gerard Ferrey

in the North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1975
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Name: Bernard Gerard Ferrey
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 78
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1896
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 17 Dec 1974
Death Location: Asheville, Buncombe
Spouse's Name: Louies May
Father's name: John Robert Ferrey
Mother's name: Emma Grimes
Residence: Asheville, Buncombe, North Carolina

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 20:03

Photo of gravestone here:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=117250666&PIpi=88826256

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 20:11

His wife's death:

Louise Marie Ferrey

in the North Carolina, Death Indexes, 1908-2004

Name: Louise Marie Ferrey
[Louise Marie May]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Social Security Number: 251098942
Father's Last Name: May
Age: 83
Date of Birth: 10 Dec 1904
Residence City: Asheville
Residence County: Buncombe
Residence State: North Carolina
Date of Death: 7 Jun 1988
Death State: Georgia
Autopsy: No
Institution: General Hospital
Attendant: Physician
Burial Location: Burial out of state
Source Vendor: NC Department of Health. North Carolina Deaths, 1988-92

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 20:18

Do you have this?

Bernard G Ferrey

in the Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978
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Name: Bernard G Ferrey
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1927
Marriage Place: Lowndes, Georgia, USA
Spouse: Marie Louise Maye
Spouse Gender: Female

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Feb 2015 20:20

wow where do I start

Emma as far as I know didn't have a sister Alice she had a sister in law but the ages don't match

That is the B = Bernard

Not sure 1950 how long they had been their I've got a bit of reading to do

Thank you for your help

Sylann

Sylann Report 11 Feb 2015 20:24

Just looked at the info I have and something is amiss

Death of Bernard G Ferrey father John Robert Ferrey right
BUT mother Emma Grimes I have Emma Frame ?? unless she married again

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2015 20:25

Bernard & Louise in 1930:

Bernard G Ferrey

in the 1930 United States Federal Census
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Name: Bernard G Ferrey
Birth Year: abt 1896
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Lodger Visitor (Lodger)
Home in 1930: Tampa, Hillsborough, Florida
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Ridgewood Drive
Ward of City: Part of Ward 5
House Number in Cities or Towns: 2309
Dwelling Number: 86
Family Number: 91
Age at First Marriage: 31
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1922
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Manager
Industry: Retail Store
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: No
Veteran: Yes
War: WW
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Abe Zbar 29
Sadie Zbar 27
Marcus J Zbar 3
[3 2/12]
Allen L Zbar 0
[9/12]
Bernard G Ferrey 34
Louise M Ferrey 24
Joan M Ferrey 1
[1 11/12]

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2015 04:44

It does indeed seem to be Emma Frame


Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)

Ferrey John Robert Salford 8d 257
Frame Emma Salford 8d 257





but remember that the information given after the death of a person is given by someone else, and is largely hearsay.


Not even spouse or children may know details ................. only what the person might have told them, and what they remembered.


I would take the information from the marriage certificate as accurate ............. especially seeing that her parents were living with them on the 1911 Census, with the surname Frame

............... and accept that Grimes on that record is inaccurate.

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Feb 2015 09:18

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FERREY Alice LOYND Herbert Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/64/30

1881
Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 14 Culverwell St
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 3968 Folio: 84 Page Number: 17
---------------
Mathew Ferry 41 Lesbury, Northumberland, England Head M Barman (Inn Serv)
Jane Ferry 42 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife M
John R. Ferry 13 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Scholar
William R. Ferry 11 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Scholar
Alice Ferry 9 Sunderland, Durham, England Daughter Scholar
Fred Caley 8 Caslton, Nottinghamshire, England Boarder Scholar


Using https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES


1900 GA https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9YL-C5Q [with image link]
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Carbert A. Loynd Head M 21 England
Alice Loynd Wife F 30 England
Gertrude E Loynd Daughter F 6 England
Lillian G Loynd Daughter F 3 Massachusetts


1910 GA https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLVG-LXQ
Herbert Loynd Head M 42 England
Alise Loynd Wife F 39 England
Gertrude Loynd Daughter F 15 England
Lillian Loynd Daughter F 12 Massachusetts
Agnes Loynd Daughter F 9 Massachusetts
---------------
District: 39 , Sheet Number and Letter: 18A , Household ID: 293
GS Film number: 1374186 , Digital Folder Number: 004327472 , Image Number: 01057


1920 GA https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ8Z-FQ6
Herbert A Loynd Head M 51 England
Alice Loynd Wife F 49 England
Gertrude E Loynd Daughter F 25 England
Lillian R Loynd Daughter F 22 Massachusetts
Agnes Loynd Daughter F 19 Massachusetts
---------------
Household ID: 58 , Line Number: 58
GS Film number: 1820236 , Digital Folder Number: 004295804 , Image Number: 00591


1930 GA https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:39JQ-23Z
GA Household ID: 266 , Line Number: 77
Affiliate Film Number: 338 , GS Film number: 2340073 , Digital Folder Number: 004531959 , Image Number: 01166


1930 FL https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ST7Q-L3Z
FL Household ID: 91 , Line Number: 56
Affiliate Film Number: 319 , GS Film number: 2340054 , Digital Folder Number: 004531940 , Image Number: 00263


1940 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K72V-452 [with image link]
Herbert A Loynd Head M 71 England
Alice N Loynd Wife F 69 England
Gertrude E Loynd Daughter F 45 England
Lillian B Loynd Daughter F 42 Massachusetts
Agnes N Loynd Daughter F 39 Massachusetts
District: 11-37 , Family Number: 302 , Sheet Number and Letter: 13A , Line Number: 8 , Affiliate Publication Number: T627 , Affiliate Film Number: 641 , Digital Folder Number: 005460966 , Image Number: 00443


1940 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KW92-7KW [with image link]
Bernard G Ferrey Head M 43 England
Marie L Ferrey Wife F 35 Florida
Joan M Ferrey Daughter F 12 Georgia
John R Ferrey Son M 5 South Carolina




Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
https://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po173unit#page/n1049/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu236unit#page/n585/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/georgiacensus00reel338#page/n1164/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/15thcensus319unit#page/n260/mode/1up