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Maybe FMP might throw up a transcription I am missing on Ancestry?

This is the family in 1901

Edward Fishlock
AGE: 34
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1867
RELATION TO HEAD: Head
GENDER: Male
SPOUSE: Alice Fishlock
BIRTH PLACE: Walworth, London, England
CIVIL PARISH: Newington
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter
COUNTY/ISLAND: London
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: ( 4 Hope Street)

OCCUPATION: general dealer ( * sometimes Hawker)

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Southwark
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Peter, Walworth
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 19
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 378
FOLIO: 159
PAGE NUMBER: 57
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 392
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Edward Fishlock 34
Alice Fishlock 33
William Fishlock 13
James Fishlock 11
Alice Fishlock 5
Edward Fishlock 3
Henry Fishlock 1

Alice is Edwards second 'wife' ( can't find marriage)

His first wife
Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)

Fishlock Edward St. Saviour 1d 236
Siddons Emma St Saviour 1d 236

First child
NAME: William Joseph Fishlock
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 25 Jan 1888
FATHER'S NAME: Edward Fishlock
MOTHER'S NAME: Emma Fishlock
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Saint Stephen, Southwark
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

NAME: Emma Elizabeth Fishlock ( 38 Camden st )
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 19 Sep 1890
FATHER'S NAME: Edward Fishlock
MOTHER'S NAME: Emma Fishlock
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Walworth St Mark
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

Both the mother Emma and child Emma died the same year 1890.

I think I have found the first child William as nephew in 1891, but I can't find his father Edward.

I have everything on Edward before his marriage to Emma, and after 1901 so don't need that thanks.

The son James that appears on the 1901 is , I think, Alice's child from a previous marriage? as I can't find a birth or baptism. The other younger children I can account for as on their baptisms parents are Edward's and Alice's.

Thankyou :-) :-)

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Camden Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England


Edward Fishlock Head Widower Male 25 1866 Toy Maker Walworth, Surrey, England

ooh that looks possible Choccy, now why couldn't I see him :-|

Ah that's why! "Edward Fishwick"

Thanks very much Choccy :-)

Edward FISHWICK on Ancestry !

:-)

It's a good job that I had already found this marriage to a relative of the above Fishlock, because this Ancestry transcription might have defeated me ;-)

Sarah Grove to
William Greffishlach ( William Griff Fishlock)

:-| :-D

Given his occupation in 1901 have you ruled out the marriage in Bristol in 1893


No rule that one out as that one married Florence Cole.

James Alfred Garnbie
England Births and Christenings
Name: James Alfred Garnbie
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 05 Oct 1890
Christening Place: St. John, Walworth, Surrey, England
Father's Name: James Garnbie
Mother's Name: Alice Emily

It's not helped that the family has a tendency to use their middle names as first and vice versa, when they feel like it.

have found some school admissions but will have to check tomorrow, thanks for replies all :-)

hi
there is a death for a alice fishlock in 1918 which matches alices age in the 1911 census in southwark which covers walworth area

hi RR,
if you look up the 1911 census and look at the years married you will see he has put 18 then gone over it with 24. so had a look for YOM 1893 and found only one to a Alice Mary Rogers - Bristol. also children born 10 alive 9 this would account for baby Emma

Thank you Yvonne, yes I am sure that is her as ( very late last night lol) I found some of the family on electoral rolls, will have to go back to it today.

Elizabeth, thankyou I will check that out also, that would certainly be about the right date given the births of children.

The school admission records have proved useful :-)

Name: Wm Fishlock
Age: 8
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1887
School: Sandford Row School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 29 Oct 1895
Parent: Edward
Notes: Sandford Row School (0764) opened in or before 1870. Became Nelson School (See Separate List) in 1932. Closed or reorganised in 196-
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/SAN/AD/001

( DOB matches with birth date given on baptism)

James also went to this school,in 1898, says born Sept 1890.

what is odd is that James and William appear to be on another school reg, for infant school, and though the father is listed as William I am pretty sure it is them as the birth for William is correct 20/9/87 James also listed as born on same day but in 1890. Though that might be just an error?