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proserpine
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4 Feb 2015 11:54 |
Has anyone ever come across a Sampson Copestake who was a surgeon ? I'm looking for information about Sampson Copestake, the father of lace manufacturers and dealers Sampson Copestake of Bow Churchyard and Marcus Copestake of Nottingham. His wife Mary, nee Banks, was also a lace dealer of Broad steet, Nottingham. She died in Nottingham 31 May 1847 and her death certificate states she was the widow of Sampson Copestake, surgeon. They had lived in Nottingham from at least 1804 when Marcus was born there but were originally from Derbyshire, possibly Ashbourne where they married.
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4 Feb 2015 12:00 |
is this related
Record Image View Add alternate information Report issue NAME: William Redfern SPOUSE: Mary Ann Banks Copestake RECORD TYPE: Marriage EVENT DATE: 19 Aug 1847 PARISH: Parish Chapel, St Pancras BOROUGH: Camden FATHER NAME: William Redfern SPOUSE FATHER: Sampson Copestake ----- deceased REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register
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4 Feb 2015 12:09 |
Only finding these.
Master's Name: John Farnworth, attorney Apprentice Name: Sampson Copestake Residence Location: Nottingham Payment Date: 15 Jan 1755
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Master's Name: Robt Radford, butcher Apprentice Name: Sampson Copestake Residence Location: Derby, Derbyshire Payment Date: 20 Feb 1785
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alviegal
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4 Feb 2015 12:15 |
Mary's death.
First name(s) MARY Last name COPESTAKE Birth year 1778 Death year 1847 Age 69 Burial year 1847 Burial day 3 Burial month 6 Place NOTTINGHAM Church description ST MARY Church denomination ANGLICAN County Nottinghamshire
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Maddie
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4 Feb 2015 12:25 |
a possible baptism
NAME: Sampson Copestake GENDER: Male BAPTISM DATE: 11 Mar 1778 BAPTISM PLACE: Cubley, Derbyshire, England FATHER: Robt. Copestake MOTHER: Elizabeth FHL FILM NUMBER: 1752147 REFERENCE ID: item 8
marriage Sampson Coapstake mentioned in the record of Sampson Coapstake and Mary Banks Name: Sampson Coapstake Spouse's Name: Mary Banks Event Date: 25 Feb 1800 Event Place: Saint Oswald,Ashbourne,Derby,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13909-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1041050
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PricklyHolly
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4 Feb 2015 12:29 |
I came across this on Ancestry which might be of interest to you.......
Sampson Copesteake III
In 1825 Sampson fouded Copesteake & Groucock,Lace merchants and wholesalers at 7 Cheapside London in a room above a trunk makers shop..
In 1827 Sampson Copesteake & Richard Grouocke were robbed by Isaac (Ikey) Solomons the infamous jewish criminal (on whom Charles Dickins based the character Fagin in "Oliver Twist). He stood trial but was acquitted.
In 1830 George Moore joined the firm as a saleman and junior partner. The buisness grew rapidley and a huge new warehouse was built in Bow Churchyard and continued trading long after his death..
In 1844 Sampson disinherited his first son William for 'marrying beneath his station'.
On the 23.10.1867 Copestake,Moore & Crompton were the first company to apply to the post office to be allowed to underprint and perferate postage stamps (perfin or spifs). this was to deter theft of the stamps.
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4 Feb 2015 13:29 |
COPESTAKE. CRAMPTON ET AL Andy Donaldson [Ed:- this came in, in response to Dave Hill's article in Bulletin 325. As Roy Gault has added more about the perfin dies elsewhere in this Bulletin, perhaps all three pieces put together will make a whole.] I read the article by Dave Hill with interest and although I cannot fully answer any of the queries raised I can add a little more general information which may be of interest to some members. From the biography of George Moore, [George Moore Merchant and Philanthropist by Samuel Smiles. Published in 1878 by George Routledge and Sons] which, although it concentrates on Moore's philanthropic endeavours, it does tie them in with updates on events in his personal and professional life at appropriate points. Here is a potted history of the firm from 1825 to 1876. The firm Groucock and Copestake was founded in 1825 and had offices/warehouse space at 7 Cheapside. Copestake was the chief clerk and warehouseman and was the main man in the office all his working life. Groucock was the man out and about travelling for orders. They moved to 62 Friday Street in 1829. George Moore joined as a junior partner in the following year when the firm became known as Groucock, Copestake and Moore. Moore became a travelling salesman concentrating on the North while Groucock covered the Midlands. After 3 years Moore became a full partner. In 1834 they moved their head office to Bow Churchyard. In 1841 Moore joined Groucock on the warehouse side of the business. At around the same time they bought up houses in Bread Street (just round the corner from Bow Churchyard) to increase their warehouse space. Business was obviously booming as they went into manufacturing and built their own Lace Factory in Nottingham in 1845.
COPESTAKE. CRAMPTON ET AL - Angelfire: Welcome to …
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COPESTAKE. CRAMPTON ET AL Andy Donaldson ... Merchant and Philanthropist by Samuel Smiles. ... The firmGroucock and Copestake was founded in 1825
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proserpine
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4 Feb 2015 13:54 |
Thanks Maddie , alviegal & PricklyHolly, that was a quick response.
Yes Maddie the Mary Ann Banks / William Redfern marriage is connected. Mary Ann was a daughter of Sampson Copestake the surgeon and Mary Banks. Her brother Sampson the lace merchant gave her away. The marriage at Ashbourne in 1800 is that of their parents. Sampson the lace merchant of Bow churchyard was their first son, born at Snelston in 1801. His brother Marcus was born in 1804 at Nottingham. I haven't found a baptism for Mary Ann yet though she states her birthplace as Nottingham in the census records.
The Cubley baptism is a possibility for the elder Sampson. There are a few others in Derbyshire too so I'm trying to find out more about Sampson the surgeon to see if there are any clues to his parentage in his employment or apprentice records. Nottingham archives have no info . Not sure how to go about finding surgeons or what type of surgeons there were in the early 19th century. Could have been a barber surgeon or naval surgeon I guess. So far no luck in the directories.
Alviegal..thanks for the burial details for Mary, that is her, I have the death cert and it's a match … I like the butcher apprenticeship too…lateral thinking butchers = surgeons !
PricklyHolly, thanks for the info re. Ikey Solomons etc I didn't know about this robbery. Very interesting and a big coincidence as I've just read a novel about him. I am a descendent of that disinherited William [ William Farrar Copestake ] . I 've been working away on my ancestry for about 15 years with some of the other descendants. We've discovered a great deal, a bit at a time , the latest bit being the info that Sampson the lace merchant's father was a surgeon. I just can't find any info around about him anywhere.
Thanks everyone.
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4 Feb 2015 14:17 |
In nearly all the census returns for Mary Ann Redfern it states her being born @1814 she died 1876 in Basford Notts and William her husband 1813-1882.
If Marcus was born 1804 there seems to be a large gap,I wonder if Samson was away at war.
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PatinCyprus
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4 Feb 2015 14:32 |
My gt grandparents had big gaps between children it was only when the 1911 census came out I found out why. 14 live births - 5 surviving children - 9 deaths.
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4 Feb 2015 15:16 |
Related?
Sampson Copestake BIRTH DATE: 1769 BURIAL DATE: 1 Feb 1820 BURIAL PLACE: Boyleston, Boyleston, Derbyshire, England BURIAL AGE: 51 FHL FILM NUMBER: 1042039
Sampson Copestake GENDER: Male BAPTISM DATE: 1 Dec 1768 BAPTISM PLACE: Edlaston,Derby,England FATHER: Samuel Copestake FHL FILM NUMBER: 1041138
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4 Feb 2015 17:48 |
NOTICE is hereby given, that by indenture, dated the the 29th day of March, 1853, John Greenstreet Jones, of New Park-road, Brixtpo, in the county of Surrey, Draper, conveyed and assigned all his estate and effects unto Sampson Copestake, of Bow Church-yard, in the city of London, Lace Manufacturer, and Edwin Caldecott, of Cheapside, in the city of London, Warehouseman, as trustees for the benefit of the creditors of the said John, Greenstreet Jones, and the said indenture was- executed by the said John Greenstreet Jones and Edwin Caldecott, respectively, on the day of the date thereof and by the IM4 Sampson Copestake, on ti*e 91st day of March, 1853,
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