i'm researching my ancestor william thomas dudley b sheerness 1812 m elizabeth frances hicks 1839, father thomas dudley i found 2 baptisms on fs for a sarah elizabeth1817 and thomas 1820 at the white chapel wesleyan chapel sheerness kent parents thomas and mary dudley i also looked in the kent archives for williams baptism with no luck i also havent found a marriage for thomas other than mary beavan 1822 st george the martyr southwark grateful for any help thanks
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Is this him in 1841
Name: William Dudley Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Ash Near Sandwich Hundred: Wingham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Eastry Sub-registration district: Sandwich Piece: 465 Book: 2 Folio: 47 Page Number: 5
William Dudley 35 Elizabeth Dudley 25 Ann Word 25 Emma Fowler 14
and 1851?
Name: William Dudley Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Dudley Gender: Male Where born: Sheerness, Kent, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Page Number: 19
William Dudley 39 Elizabeth Dudley 34 William Dudley 11 Henry Dudley 9 Charles Dudley 7 George Dudley 5 Frank Dudley 2
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=446123.0
(somebody on above having trouble with 1861, Birth below given)
Births Sep 1859 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Dudley Reuben Newington 1d 182
Chris :)
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A brother
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) Name: Henry Frances Dudley Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 31 Aug 1822 Christening Place: Sheerness, Kent Father's Name: Thomas Dudley Mother's Name: Mary Dudley
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England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Sarah Elizabeth Last name Dudley Birth year 1817 Birth date 07 Sep 1817 Baptism year 1817 Baptism date 02 Nov 1817 Place Sheerness Denomination Wesleyan Methodist Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Mary
First name(s) Thomas Last name Dudley Birth year 1820 Birth date 24 Feb 1820 Baptism year 1820 Baptism date 07 May 1820 Place Sheerness Denomination Wesleyan Methodist Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Mary
(possibly relating also)
Chris :)
edits (with apologies, as you have above!)
(was she a Hicks or Wicks?, out of interest, as Marriage looks like Wicks for Father Richard, and Wicks on 1841)
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I think this may be the couple in your 1841 census Beverley, so rule them out.
First name(s) William Webb Last name Dudley Marriage year 1837 Marriage day 14 Marriage month Mar Place Ash, St Nicholas Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Brown Spouse's last name Wood Groom's parish Bloomshire Bride's parish Ash Next Sandwich
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Ah, this looks more like them. I see you've already seen this Chris :-) :-)
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription William Street, St Mary Newington, Surrey, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Richard Wicks Male 60 1781 - labourer Transcription Hannah Wicks Female 52 1789 - Transcription Ann Wicks Female 22 1819 - dressmaker Transcription William Dudley Male 29 1812 - carpenter Transcription Elizabeth Dudley Female 25 1816 - dressmaker Transcription William Dudley Male 2 1839 Surrey, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Horsemonger Lane, Newington, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Dudley Head Married Male 39 1812 Carpenter Sheerness, Kent, England Transcription Elizabeth Dudley Wife Married Female 34 1817 Dress Maker Newington, Surrey, England Transcription William Dudley Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Henry Dudley Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Charles Dudley Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England Transcription George Dudley Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Frank Dudley Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 Scholar At Home Newington, Surrey, England
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rodney Row, St Mary Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Wm Dudley Head - Male 60 1811 - Kent, England Transcription Elizabeth Dudley Wife - Female 54 1817 - Middlesex, England Transcription Alfred Dudley Son - Male 17 1854 - Surrey, England Transcription Rhuben Dudley Son - Male 11 1860 - Surrey, England Transcription Alice Dudley Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Surrey, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 36, Tiverton Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Willm Dudley Head Married Male 68 1813 Carpenter Sheerness, Kent, England Transcription Elizth Dudley Wife Married Female 64 1817 Dressmaker Aldgate, Middlesex, England Transcription George Dudley Son Unmarried Male 32 1849 Barman Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Alfred Dudley Son Unmarried Male 27 1854 Carpenter Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Reuben Dudley Son Unmarried Male 24 1857 Waiter (Inn) Newington, Surrey, England
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Yes, you're right, alviegal. Still can't see William's baptism :-S I wonder if he was born illegitimately and baptised with his mother's surname.
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1271204
Thomas Dudley born 1787 Edinburgh Castle
(above came up on google, with lynden adding at end, not sure if anything on it helps!)
Chris :)
1851 (Find My Past) Thomas Dudley Head Married Male 64 1787 Carpenter Castle, Midlothian, Scotland Mary Dudley Wife - Female 61 1790 - Gillingham, Kent, England Jane Gates Grand Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Newington, Surrey, England Street Lion Street Parish Newington City Lambeth County Surrey Parliamentary borough Lambeth Registration district Newington Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1568 Folio 326 Page 38
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Mary on her own in 1861.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 5, Penton Street, Newington, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Clark Head Married Male 32 1829 Carpenter Lambeth, Surrey, England Transcription Mary A Clark Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Christchurch, Surrey, England Transcription Mary E Clark Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Georginia Clark Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Newington, Surrey, England Transcription Mary Dudley Lodger Widow Female 71 1790 Laundress Gillingham, Kent, England
and the 1841?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Princess Place, St George the Martyr, St George the Martyr Southwark, Surrey, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Thomas Dudley Male 50 1791 - carpenter Transcription Mary Dudley Female 50 1791 - Transcription Caroline Dudley Female 13 1828 Surrey, England
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hi all thanks for info i have copys of marriage of william and elizabeth and richard and hannah wicks(hicks) great you found 1841c with them together wil get copy of original thanks i found rootschat post regarding 1861 census and an old post on here about thomas dudley 1787 edinburgh castle and mary beavan born gillingham a there was a garrison there possible military link with gillingham (brompton) sheerness . so looks very possible thats the right thomas also marriage was 1822 and i havent found another marriage for thomas before that so as you say william and sarah may be illegitimate al though i have found a copy of thomas baptism 1820 thanks all lynden
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