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William John Farguson born c1875

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Philippa

Philippa Report 2 Feb 2015 15:17

I am stuck in finding out further information about my great grandfather, William John Farguson. He was born in 1875 in Glamorganshire, worked as a shop assistant, married Effie Jane Jeffrey in December 1910 in Cardiff. In 1911 he was living in 1911 Corporation Road.

I would like to find out who his parents were. My grandmother told me that the family changed the name at some point, so I have tried searching for Farqharson and Ferguson but can't find anything. Any ideas?

safc

safc Report 2 Feb 2015 15:25


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Harrowby Street, St Mary Cardiff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Farguson Head Married Male 52 1839 Mariner Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Margaret Farguson Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Robert Henry Farguson Son Single Male 21 1870 Joiners Apprentice Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Annie Eliza Farguson Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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William John Farguson Son - Male 16 1875 Larder Man Butcher Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Lydia Farguson Daughter - Female 13 1878 Tailoress Apprentice Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Evan Farguson Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Albert George Farguson Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 2 Feb 2015 15:26

Is this his birth

WILLIAM JOHN
Last name FARGUSON
Birth year 1874
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District CARDIFF
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 285
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 2 Feb 2015 15:28

Marriage


Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
First name(s) WILLIAM J
Last name FARGUSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM J FARGUSON married one of these people
SARAH E MAC MAGILLICUDDY, EFFIE J JEFFERY
Spouse's last name -
District CARDIFF
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 762
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Philippa

Philippa Report 2 Feb 2015 15:30

Thanks - I am useless at searching records - thought I had already been through all the census records :-S

What on earth is a 'larder man butcher' ??? :-0

Philippa

Philippa Report 2 Feb 2015 15:32

Thanks Tenerife Sun - Will look into the birth record - the marriage record is definitely the second one - I have loads of information about Effie Jane and her family, but very little on William John.

Wish I could work out what I do wrong on these searches - I have tried for hours & spent loads on credits only to end up looking at people who have no relevance to my family!

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 2 Feb 2015 15:33

Possibly your grandfathers death

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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) HENRY A
Last name FARGUSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1839
Age 71
Death quarter 3
Death year 1910
District CARDIFF
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A
Page 171
Country Wales
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
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Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 2 Feb 2015 15:35

Grandmothers death

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First name(s) MARGARET
Last name FARGUSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1853
Age 72
Death quarter 1
Death year 1925
District CARDIFF
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A
Page 552
Country Wales
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
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safc

safc Report 2 Feb 2015 15:36


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
34, Margaret Street, Cardiff St Mary, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Ferguson Wife Head Married Female 29 1852 Mariners Wife Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Robert H Ferguson Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Annie E Ferguson Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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William Ferguson Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Lydia Ferguson Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Evan Ferguson Son Single Male 0 1881 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

safc

safc Report 2 Feb 2015 15:39

Name: Henry Farguson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Nov 1869
Event Place: St Mary, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Gender: Male
Age: 26y
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Robert Farguson
Spouse's Name: Margaret Davies
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: John Davies
Digital Folder Number: 004174198
Image Number: 00212



Citing this Record:
"Wales, Glamorgan, Parish Register Marriages, 1837-1922," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV3C-545 : accessed 2 February 2015), Henry Farguson and Margaret Davies, 2 Nov 1869; citing St Mary, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales, National Library, Aberystwyth; FHL microfilm 4,174,198.

Vicci

Vicci Report 3 Feb 2015 07:09

henry farguson
merchant navy record on findmypast


First name(s)
HENRY

Last name
Farguson

Age
-

Birth year
1834

Birth day
-

Birth month
12

Birth place
TYNEMOUTH

Birth county
NORTHUMBERLAND

Place
TYNEMOUTH

Discharge number
-

Identity certificate number
-

Card type
-

Date range
1845-1854

Series
BT113

Piece number
203

Record set
Merchant Navy Seamen

Category
Education & work

Record collection
Merchant navy & maritime

Collections from
Great Britain

Gee

Gee Report 3 Feb 2015 09:51

Not sure where you are searching, GR?


Probate

Name:William John Farguson Address: 66 Penhevas Street, Grangetown Cardiff

Probate Date:7 May 1936

Death Date:22 Apr 1936

Death Place:Cardiff, Wales

Registry:Llandaff

To: Effie Jane Farguson, widow £337 6s 7d

Gee

Gee Report 3 Feb 2015 09:55


Name:Effie Jane Farguson, widoe of 116 Taff Embankment, Cardiff

Probate Date:24 Jan 1947

Death Date:29 Dec 1946

Death Place:Cardiff

Registry:Llandaff

To: Roy Farguson, Coal & shipping clerk £552

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Feb 2015 14:28


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Margaret Street, Cardiff (St Mary), Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Ferguson Wife - Female 19 1852 - Glamorgan, Wales husband fireman on Steam ? at sea
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Robert Ferguson Son - Male 1 1870 - Glamorgan, Wales

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 3 Feb 2015 18:03

I think he was born Stepney, London son of Robert and Marianne/Mary Anne
Here's the 1851 as Ferguson. I have found all the children's baptisms, as Farguson, and several references to Henry Albert born London c1839 as a fireman, on ships where he joined at Cardiff.There was another daughter born 1851


NAME: Mary Anne Louisa Farguson
MOTHER: Mary Ann Farguson
FATHER: Robert Farguson
BAPTISM: 29 Jun 1851 - Clapham Holy Trinity, England

1851
NAME: Henry Ferguson
AGE: 12
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1839
RELATION: Sono
FATHER'S NAME: Robert Ferguson
MOTHER'S NAME: Ann Ferguson
GENDER: Male
WHERE BORN: Chelsea
CIVIL PARISH: Stepney
COUNTY/ISLAND: Middlesex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

DISABILITY:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Stepney
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Mile End Old Town Upper
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 24
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 63
PIECE: 1552
FOLIO: 632
PAGE NUMBER: 14
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Robert Ferguson 39
Ann Ferguson 43. She's Mary Ann on other census's
Charlotte Ferguson 13 she was Charlotte Elizabeth
Henry Ferguson 12
Maria Ferguson 10 she was Ada Maria
Phoebe Ferguson 7
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All the children were baptised at the same church

NAME: Henry Albert Farguson
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 5 May 1839
FATHER'S NAME: Robert Farguson...b1812 Stokenchurch, Oxen...a blacksmith.
MOTHER'S NAME: Marianne Farguson
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Clapham Holy Trinity
BOROUGH: Lambeth
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

1881
NAME: Henry Albert Farguson
AGE: 40
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1841
GENDER: Male
WHERE BORN: London Chelsea, London, Middlesex, England
CIVIL PARISH: Vessels
COUNTY/ISLAND: Cornwall
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: "Boston"
MARITAL STATUS: Married
EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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OCCUPATION: Fireman
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Penzance
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Penzance
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: Boston (1)

Robert and Mary Anne's marriage, same church as children's baptisms

NAME: Mary Ann Barrett
SPOUSE: Robert Farguson
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 15 Jul 1834
PARISH: Holy Trinity, Clapham
BOROUGH: Lambeth
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

Roberts burial his address was 34 West Street, Mile End,
NAME: Robert Farguson
RECORD TYPE: Burial
AGE: 50
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1812
DEATH DATE: abt 1862
BURIAL DATE: 19 Jan 1862
BURIAL PLACE: Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town, England
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town
BOROUGH: Tower Hamlets
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Register

Henry, fireman, joined ship at Cardiff
NAME: Henry Farguson
AGE: 37
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1841
BIRTH PLACE: London
EVENT DATE: 1878
PORT OF REGISTRY: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
SHIP NAME: Gladiator
OFFICIAL NUMBER: 29018
REFERENCE NUMBER: 387CRE/385

Same info applied in the following year 1879

1910 he was a cab proprietor
Henry Farguson
STREET ADDRESS: 100 Penhevad street Grangetown Cardiff
PUBLICATION TITLE: 1910 Kelly´s Directory, South Wales
COUNTRY: Wales
PUBLICATION YEAR: 1910

Gins found this same address for his widow Effie and her second husband

Philippa

Philippa Report 3 Feb 2015 19:22

Thank you all very much for all your help. I think it will take a while to sort through all this information (I'm not very good with numbers, so family history is really challenging with all those dates!), but I have already been able to fill in some blanks and confirm some family tales that have been handed down.

I have been searching the GR records without much success but have just found out I can have free access to Find my past at the library, so will try that in future. Very pleased to see they have Merchant Navy records as the Morgans were merchant navy going back several generations, so hopefully should be able to find something helpful there!