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"Who's Who in Staffordshire" 1934

BETSON, William James (Rev.), J.P.
Clerk in Holy Orders.
The Vicarage, Alton, Stoke-on-Trent.

Born 1872 at Bourne, Lincs. Son of the late James Betson. Educated at Lutterworth Grammar School and Schola Cancellarii, Lincoln.

Married 1903, Ella Fleetwood, daughter of the late T. P. Edwards, M.D.

Member of Cheadle Rural District Council and Chairman since 1928 ;
Member of Leek and Cheadle Guardians Committee ;
Member of North West Joint Electricity Authority since 1931.

Vicar of Alton and Bradley-le-Moors ;
In charge of large Munition District (St. Luke’s), Barrow-in-Furness, during the Great War.
Recreations - Tennis, Golf, Amateur Mechanics and Music.

Heir - James Patrick Francis Betson. Born 1915.

http://www.thepotteries.org/people/betson_wilm.htm

Chris :)


Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 (Find My Past)

BETSON JAMES PATRICK FRANCIS 1906 1932 Passenger lists Port of Spain (Trinidad), West Indies (Master Mariner)

Last address in UK as, The Vicarage, Alton, Staffordshire

(address same as on above article, Birth on it, perhaps a mistake)

edits

Deaths
1946 Betson Ella Fleetwood 70 Douglas 250 2862
1949 Betson William James 77 Douglas

Marriage
Year Surname Name Parish/Town Where Married Page Entry Register Notes
1903 Betson William James Onchan Onchan

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1911 (Find My Past)
William James Betson Head Married Male 38 1873 Bourne Lincolnshire Clerk In Holy Orders
Ella Fleetwood Betson Wife Married Female 35 1876 Castletown Isle of Man
James Patrick Francis Betson Son - Male 5 1906 Derbyshire Fernilee
Mary Jocelyne Betson Daughter - Female 3 1908 Derbyshire Fernilee
Gertrude Mary Betson Sister Single Female 42 1869 Lincolnshire Bourne Organist And Teacher Of Music
Alice Robotham Servant Single Female 23 1888 Derbyshire Derby General Servant Domestic
Address 90 Appleton Gate Newark Nottinghamshire
Parish Newark upon Trent
County Nottinghamshire
Census reference RG14 PN20743 RG78 PN1237 RD432 SD3 ED12 SN6

They lived in greenwich for a time

NAME: Doris Betson
YEAR: 1937
COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Greenwich
WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Greenwich
STREET ADDRESS: 3 Morden road
With
James Patrick Francis and others

1938 at the same address with the same people as in 1939

NAME: Doris Evelyn Betson
YEAR: 1939
COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Greenwich
WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Greenwich

Address 20 Kidbrooke Grove

With James Patrick frances and several other people

The was the cable laying firm in Greenwich so maybe he worked for them


I come from that area and remember the firm but can't remember its name It may have been British Ropes. but think they were at Charlton Or Telegraph and Cables co ,they did have a fleet of cable laying ships as we had a lodger whose boy friend served on one of them and was away for weeks at a time as it laid cable under the seas

Did his wife's obituary not say where she died. That may give you a clue. If you don't have the full notice, it may be worth visiting a main library that holds past editions of the Times to check it out.

That's great - so that confirms that he and his wife did spend time in the UK - and that is where they were living when there daughter was born.

From what we can remember Granny went off to see him when he was ill before he died - we know we were still at school so that would be - late 60's / 70's - but we can't remember any of the details about where she went etc. Unfortunately, there isn't any family member still alive who we can ask.

We have hundreds of photos of James, as a young man on boats and in exotic locations - yet we don't know what happened to him or where his final resting place is.

I will just keep searching..... and Thank You all for your input.
Cheers
Sorrilsain

And 1972

J P F Betson
ADDRESS: OBE. Copse Corner Cott,Moor Com,Lane End...
EXCHANGE: H Wycombe
DIRECTORY TITLE: Oxford Feb
PUBLICATION YEAR: 1972
DIRECTORY COUNTY: Oxford
PAGE NUMBER: 35

Capt J P F Betson
ADDRESS: OBE, Copse Corner Cott,Moor Com...
EXCHANGE: Lane End
DIRECTORY TITLE: Oxford Feb
PUBLICATION YEAR: 1971
DIRECTORY COUNTY: Oxford
PAGE NUMBER: 32

So still in Oxfordshire in 1971 if above 'phone book entry is correct?

James Patrick Betson
YEAR: 1936
COUNTRY: England
COUNTY: Surrey
PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Mitcham
PLACE OF ABODE: 36 Crichton Road
REFERENCE NUMBER: CC802/53/6

Also there Doris Betson

I guess this is a list of GPO appointments - it includes Sorting Clerks, Telephonists, Postmen etc

The London Gazette 9 February 1937

Under Clause 3 of the General Regulations

Post Office: Navigating Officer on a Cable Ship

James Patrick Francis Betson

National Archives - cost of £3.30

Reference: BT 395/1/6940
Description:
Medal listing of Betson, J P F
Discharge number:1072437
Date of Birth: 08 June 1905
Date: [1946-2002]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Thanks for the Merchant service info...

I guess I'm going to have to extend my search world wide - for his marriage and death details. Any pointers on where to start?

OBE
Supplement to the London Gazette 1 January 1957

To be Ordinary Officers of the Civil Division of the said Most Excellent Order -

Captain James Patrick Francis Betson, Commander, HMTS Monarch, General Post Office

HMTS Monarch was a Cable laying ship, in GPO service

No death showing on FMP and nothing showing in UK probate records 1960-1996 I'm afraid.

Nothing on Find a Grave either.

Yes, Merchant Navy

Do you have these?

UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927

Certificate of Competency as Second Mate on a Foreign-going Steamship in the Merchant Service
NAME: James Patrick Francis Betson
ESTIMATED AGE: 20
BIRTH DATE: 1905
BIRTH PLACE: Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire
ISSUE DATE: 15 Jan 1925
ISSUE PORT: Liverpool
CERTIFICATE NUMBER: 0018649

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and as First Mate of a foreign-going Steamship in the merchant Service - granted 4 May 1926

NAME: James Patrick Francis Betson
ESTIMATED AGE: 21
BIRTH DATE: 1905
BIRTH PLACE: Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire
ISSUE DATE: 20 May 1926
CERTIFICATE NUMBER: 0018649

Navy captain rather than an Army Captain ?

My cousin has the cuttings about his OBE... so, can't tell you the dates.

Hi

In the obituary he is referred to as: Capt JPF Betson OBE

He had one daughter - Valerie F Betson born 1937 Surrey Died1959 Bucks

I will have another look at the Channel Island records - thanks for the link.

Curious as to when he got the OBE ?

Channel Islands records - this would give you a starting point

http://www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk/

How was he referred to in the obituary?

Did the couple have children?

They didn't marry in England or Wales

His wife didn't die in England or Wales, either