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Trying to find information regarding Robert Kay born about 1865 and died 1918. He was married to Sarah Ann Read in 1901 and had 2 sons Albert born 1902 and Herbert born 1905. I know everything about him from his marriage to the present day but am unable to work out his birthplace or his ancestry going backwards from his parents. Can anyone help please? Thankyou

For an idea of where we might be looking - is this your couple?

First name(s) ROBERT
Last name KAY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1901
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ROBERT KAY married one of these people
SARAH ANN READ, ADA GRACE SMITH
Spouse's last name -
District ORMSKIRK
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 1338

Yes. This is definitely the correct Robert Kay and he was married to Sarah Ann Read in Southport which was in the district of Ormskirk. He also died in Southport in 1918 if that helps. Thanks Greyghost

Can you post the 1911 census please as I'm not finding the family in Lancashire at the moment.

Do you have the marriage certificate - who are named as Father's and their occupations ? What was Robert's occupation?

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
38, Shakespeare Street, Southport, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John R Rimmer Head Married Male 22 1879 Poulterer Churchtown, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth E Rimmer Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Robinson Father-In-Law Married Male 45 1856 Coachman (Domestic) Bolton, Lancashire, England
Mary A Robinson Mother-In-Law Married Female 43 1858 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
James Robinson Brother-In-Law Single Male 18 1883 Hairdresser Bolton, Lancashire, England
Robert Kay Uncle Single Male 35 1866 Stone Machinist Bolton, Lancashire, England <<<<<
Sarah Smith Boarder Single Female 43 1858 Cook Domestic Halifax, Yorkshire, England

This is one of my problems as Sarah was with the two boys at her father John Reads in Hull in 1911 census and I have been unable to find John in Southport or anywhere else despite the fact that they definitely lived there. I can't find either of them in the 1901 census either, although they were married in Southport in Apr/May/Jun 1901. There is a Robert Kay in Southport in 1901 at his Uncles Thomas Robinson but I have no way of knowing if that is him.

Sarh and the children 1911


Name:
Herbert Kay

Age in 1911:8
Estimated birth year:abt 1903
Relation to Head:Visitor
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island:Yorkshire-East Riding
Country:England
Street address89 Wellsted Street Hull
Occupation:School
Registration district:Hull
Registration District Number:522
Sub-registration district:Myton
ED, institution, or vessel:24
Piece:28793
Household Members:
Name
Age

John Read 70
Lane Read 22
Lucy Read 24
Sarah Ann Kay 41
Albert Kay 9
Herbert Kay 8

Andy

That is the same one but is Robert the Uncle ? If so, of whom

??? Your Robert in 1911 right age, b Bolton as possible 1901

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
103 Poulton Road Southport, Southport, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Robert Kay Head Married Male 45 1866 Bolton Lancs Bricksetters Labourer

Registration district Ormskirk
Registration district number 457
Subdistrict North Meols
Subdistrict number 6
Enumeration district 43
Piece number 22909
Piece Number Suffix -
Schedule number 209

Married 9 years 2 children born and still alive

thanks Andrew. They are the correct ones but can find no trace of Robert.

Here he is


Name:Robert Hay
Age in 1911:45
Estimated birth year:abt 1866
Relation to HeadHead
GenderMale
Birth Place:Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Southport
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:103 Paulton Road High Park Southport
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Bricksetters Labourer
Registration district:Ormskirk
Registration District Number:457
Sub-registration district:North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel:43
Piece:22909
Household Members:
Name
Age

Robert Hay 45


Married 9 years 2 children both alive. All correct

Andy

The relationships given should be to the Head of the House so in this case Robert should be uncle to John Rimmer

Hi Greyghost. That does sound like my Robert in which case, if he was born in Bolton I should be a step nearer to discovering who his parents were. Will get cracking!!

Do you have the marriage certificate to give occupation and the name/occupation of the fathers??

Hi Andy. No wonder I couldn't find him as its obviously been mistranscribed as Hay not Kay. Thank you both so much.

No I don't have a marriage certificate only word of mouth but now I know he was born in Bolton I will be able to narrow him down and maybe not have to send for too many certificates,