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Amelia Ada ( Pasmore) Duncan, b.London 1901

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Rosamund

Rosamund Report 19 Jan 2015 19:40

Thank you all so much, I knew I could rely on you to sort it out

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 18:46

Good point,Marg. :-)

Moxxx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jan 2015 18:39

I agree, a simple mistake on the death certificate. However it's also Amelia Edith on the probate record meaning that's what it was on the will. Sounds as if she dumped the Ada and changed it to Edith for some reason.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 18:21

Raymond...not Robert.

Claire. ;-)

Don't confuse me.

So when DO I win the lottery?

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 18 Jan 2015 18:19

The info on the death cert is only as good as the informer gives. Did Raymond say the wrong name?

My husband got the shock of his life when he looked at his birth cert - my FIL gave his wife the wrong maiden name. It's not the name she was known by, that is, her late father's surname but her step father's surname which she'd never been known by. We'll never know why. :-S

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 18:03

Nah! Her name just got B*ed up on the death cert.

Raymond and Dorothy are at 37 Parkfield after their marriage.

It does seem as though it was the Blundell/Pasmore residence for many years.

Moxxxx

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 18 Jan 2015 17:56

So we have Amelia Edith Duncan & Amelia Ada Duncan, both with husband Raymond and both living at 37 Parkfield Street, Islington

More chance of winning the lottery than these being 2 separate couples.

Maybe Amelia fell out with her mother so changed her middle name.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jan 2015 17:32

She's Amelia A. at marriage:

Marriages Dec 1943 (>99%)
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Cranmer Claude H R Reid Islington 1b 340
Duncan Raymond Pasmore Islington 1b 340
Reid Elizabeth E Cranmer Islington 1b 340

Her page # mistranscribed:

Marriages Dec 1943 (>99%)
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Pasmore Amelia A Duncan Islington 1b 540

Edit: No mistranscriptions, I've checked both originals.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 17:30

This seems to have been Amelia's address more than Raymond's...but just an example:

Raymond Duncan in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

NAME: Raymond Duncan
YEAR: 1939
COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Islington
WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Islington North and South
STREET ADDRESS: 37 Parkfield Street
....

Amelia Ada Passmore in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

NAME: Amelia Ada Passmore
YEAR: 1939
COUNTY OR BOROUGH: Islington
WARD OR DIVISION/CONSTITUENCY: Islington North and South
STREET ADDRESS: 37 Parkfield Street


Maureen

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jan 2015 17:29

Amelia Ada in 1911. Mother has remarried Joseph Blundell.

Amelia Ada Pasmore

in the 1911 England Census

Name: Amelia Ada Pasmore
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Step Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 17 Denmark Road, Islington, London N
Occupation: SCHOOL GIRL
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 881
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Edwin Blundell 43
Ada Blundell 37
Arthur George Pasmore 13
Amelia Ada Pasmore 10

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jan 2015 17:21

Amelia Ada's birth:

Amelia Ada Pasmore

in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Record Image View

Name: Amelia Ada Pasmore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1901
Father's name: Arthur George Pasmore
Mother's name: Ada Pasmore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Pentonville St Silas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 7 Dec. 1900, father a paper stainer.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Jan 2015 17:17

The above death sounds very likely. Perhaps the registrar mistook the name Ada for Edith (accents can cause this) and the birth year would be right.

Failing this, it is possible that Raymond and Amelia just split up and because divorce was still expensive and difficult for ordinary working class people at that time, he just went on to marry again saying he was single. Do you have the second marriage certificate which would give his marital status at the time (or at least what he said it was).

My bet is on the death found by Maureen being the correct one.

Kath. x

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 17:15

Ah,thank you,Claire.

Perfect fit.

NAME: Amelia Edith Duncan
PROBATE DATE: 16 Jan 1945
DEATH DATE: 25 Nov 1944
DEATH PLACE: London, England
..of 37 Parkfield Islington. Died at St Leonards Hospital Shoreditch.
Husband Raymond was an aero engine fitter.

Maureen

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 18 Jan 2015 16:58

The above death is for Amelia Edith Duncan however probate names her husband as executor and he's Raymond Duncan

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Jan 2015 16:46

Wondering about this one:


Amelia E Duncan in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

NAME: Amelia E Duncan
BIRTH DATE: abt 1901
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Dec 1944
AGE AT DEATH: 43
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Shoreditch
INFERRED COUNTY: London
VOLUME: 1c
PAGE: 32


Maureen

Rosamund

Rosamund Report 18 Jan 2015 16:34

Amelia Pasmore married Raymond Duncan in London, Nov 27, 1943. He then married Dorothy Pryce, Nov 3, 1945. I'm trying to find out what happened to Amelia. I can't find a death notice. I've tried Ancestry, BMD and Deceasedonline. Thanks for any help you can give.