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Shirley
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17 Jan 2015 16:32 |
Can some kind person please help me I am not sure how to trace the certificates as I do not know who they married
I am trying to trace marriage certificates for :Edward A Porter. Born 1895 in Southwark, London.
William Porter.Born 1898 in Southwark London.
They used to live at 253 Scovell Road, Southwark.
I am trying to learn the ropes in tracing our ancestors.
Thank you for reading and any help you can give me.
Shirley.
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2015 16:40 |
As a starting point, just for our reference:
1911 England Census about Edward A Porter Name: Edward A Porter Age in 1911: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Southwark, London, England Civil Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 253 Scovell Road, Southwark, London S E Marital Status: Single Occupation: CLERK Registration district: Southwark Registration District Number: 23 Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr West ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 1791 Household Members: Name Age Edward Porter 38 Emily Porter 37 Edward A Porter 16 Nellie Porter 15 William Porter 13 Harry Porter 6 Ivy Porter 1
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2015 16:42 |
Do you know that he actually did marry, and if so, do you know any of his children's names?
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2015 16:45 |
!!!!!
NAME: Edward Albert Porter ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1894 AGE: 21 SPOUSE: Ivory Lillian Ballantyne SPOUSE AGE: 21 RECORD TYPE: Marriage EVENT DATE: 7 Mar 1915 PARISH: St George the Martyr BOROUGH: Southwark FATHER NAME: James Porter SPOUSE FATHER: David Ballantyne REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registe
Edward Albert Porter, bachelor, clerk of 253 Scovell Road<<<<<<<<<<<
Father James Porter, machine minder.
Bride a spinster of 221 Southwark Bridge road.
Her father David Ballantyne a gas fitter.
Witnesses Isabel and David Ballantyne.
Taken from the London Metropolitan Archives collection on Ancestry.
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2015 16:51 |
That'll be it, Kucinta.
Although Edward's father's name is Edward in 1911, in 1901 it's Edward J - so presumably Edward James.
Incidentally, "Ivory" is Ivy on FreeBMD.
1901 England Census about Emily Porter Name: Emily Porter Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Edward J Porter Birth Place: Plymouth Civil Parish: St George the Martyr Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Southwark Sub-registration district: Borough Road ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 366 Folio: 126 Page Number: 54 Household schedule number: 306 Household Members: Name Age Edward J Porter 30 Emily Porter 27 Edward Porter 6 Ellen Porter 5 William Porter 3
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2015 16:54 |
I'll pm(private message) a copy of the marriage register as it has all the information you would find on the marriage cert.
Kucinta
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ArgyllGran
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17 Jan 2015 16:56 |
Just maybe William's marriage???
William Albert Porter mentioned in the record of William Albert Porter and Violet Rose Lawrence Name: William Albert Porter Birth Date: 1898 Age: 31 Spouse's Name: Violet Rose Lawrence Spouse's Birth Date: 1902 Spouse's Age: 27 Event Date: 25 Dec 1929 Event Place: Newington, London Father's Name: Edward James Porter Spouse's Father's Name: Arthur Edward Lawrence Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01872-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 475308 , Reference ID: v 4 p 217
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2015 17:08 |
Just to show Argyllgran has right names for William on the marriage she posted, presumably he reversed them later.
NAME: Edward Albert Porter RECORD TYPE: Baptism BAPTISM DATE: 29 Jul 1894 FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Lambeth St John the Evangelist BOROUGH: Lambeth REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers
Queens Buildings 92 Co??son ST Southwark Bridge road. Father a machine minder. EDIT Born June 13th 1894.
Father's name changes again on William's baptism!
NAME: Albert William Porter RECORD TYPE: Baptism BAPTISM DATE: 21 Nov 1897 FATHER'S NAME: Edward Albert Porter MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark Christ Church BOROUGH: Southwark REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers
156 Queen Buildings Southwark Bridge Rd. Father a machine manager. No birth date recorded.
A sister born between the two boys, presumably the Nellie of 1911?
NAME: Ellen Rose Porter RECORD TYPE: Baptism BAPTISM DATE: 19 Jan 1896 FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark St Saviour BOROUGH: Southwark REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers
92 Queen's Buildings. Father a machine manager. Born 5th July 1895
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2015 17:21 |
RE the Ivory/Ivy for Edward's wife; on the marriage register she has been recorded as Ivory Lillian Ballantyne, but she has signed the register as Ivy Lilian Ballantyne.
Looks like she was baptised as Ivy:
NAME: Ivy Lilian Ballantine RECORD TYPE: Baptism BAPTISM DATE: 3 Jul 1895 FATHER'S NAME: David Ballantine MOTHER'S NAME: Elizabeth Ballantine PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark St Peter BOROUGH: Southwark REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers
Born 18th aug 1893. Father a gas fitter's labourer , living at 5a Moss Alley. Elder sister Isabel Louisa and younger sister Madeline baptised the same day.
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Kucinta
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17 Jan 2015 17:32 |
Looks like little Harry's baptism:
NAME: Lionel Henry Porter RECORD TYPE: Baptism BAPTISM DATE: 25 Sep 1904 FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: St George the Martyr BOROUGH: Southwark REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers
168 Scovell Rd Queens Buildings. Born Aug 4th 1904. Father a printer.
LMA baptism collection stops at 1906 so can't look for Ivy Porter from the 1911 there.
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