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hi
looking for my gt.grandfather's george grice parents marriage and birth places fathers name william grice born about 1825 and jane i think her name was moore they came from shropshire area in 1961 census there is a marrige in birmingham which could be them also would like to find their parents any help please thank you

yvonne

Assume you mean 1861


But age doesn't match



Name:William Grice

Birth Year:abt 1830

Marriage Date:31 Jul 1853

Marriage Age:23

Marriage Place:
Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Jane Moore

Spouse Marriage Age:25

Father:Thomas Grice
Spouse's Father:John Moore

Is this right family in 1871 ??


Name:
George Grice

Age:11

Estimated birth year:
abt 1860

Relation:Son

Father's name:William Grice

Mother's name:Jane Grice


Where born:Lydbury North, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:Lydbury North
Town:Lydbury North
County/Island:Shropshire

Registration district:Clun


William Grice 46
Jane Grice 47
William Grice 17
Thomas Grice 14
George Grice 11
Richard Grice 9
Jane Grice 8


Mother's maiden name would be on children's birth certs

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lydbury North, Clun, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Grice Head Married Male 38 1823 Servant Montgomeryshire, Wales
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Jane Grice Wife Married Female 39 1822 - Lydbury North, Shropshire, England
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William Grice Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales
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Thomas Grice Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Lydbury North, Shropshire, England
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George Grice Son - Male 1 1860 - Lydbury North, Shropshire, England

from someone's tree..
Not sure if same William if he was born in Wales ?


Name:
George Grice

Birth: Abt 1860 - Shropshire, England
Parents: William Grice, Jane Pinkner

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Name:
William Grice

Birth: 30 May 1824 - Yorkshire, England
Death: 09 Feb 1887 (9 Feb 1887) - Ontario, Canada
Marriage: England
Spouse: Jane Pinkner

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Marriages Dec 1847

Beverly Hannah Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
Crosby Thomas Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
*****GRICE William - Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
HILL Hannah Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
OXLEY Elizabeth Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
*****Pinkney Jane - Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
WARDELL James Malton 24 482 Scan available - click to view
WILEY George Malton 24 482

Best to start with George's birth cert to confirm which Jane was his mother.

hi
that is the right family in 1861 and 1871 in lydbury still not sure about the marriage of william and jane george was born in 1860 its not the william grice born in yorkshire married to jane pinkner

Order:
GRISS, GEORGE HOWELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in CLUN Volume 06A Page 515 Order

jane's mother married a john owen

I think we're dealing with variations in the spelling of the surname:
Marriages Jun 1852
Grist William Clun 6a 958
Owen Jane Clun 6a 958
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Births Mar 1857
Griss Thomas Clun 6a 523
Births Dec 1859
Griss George Clun 6a 515
Births Jun 1861
GRIST Richard Clun 6a 549
Births Dec 1862
GRIST Jane Elizabeth Clun 6a 539


Maureen

Where was George born? Who did he marry?

Why do you think his father was called William

Have you found them together on the 1871 and 1881 censuses which are free and in full on familysearch site.?

Have you looked on freebmd for info?

Shropshire marriages Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Grist
Marriage year 1852
Marriage date 31 May 1852
Marriage place Lydbury North
Denomination Anglican
Residence Forden
Age Of Full Age
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Grist
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Owen
Spouse's residence Lydbury
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Davies
County Shropshire
Register date range 1837-1900
Archive reference P177/A/3/4
Page 39


Maureen

EDIT: Jane is a spinster on the marriage image...so I guess Thomas DAVIES married her mother sometime after Jane's birth???

Is this the marriage you refer to?

Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%)

BIRCH Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 168
GRICE William Birmingham 6d 168
KINCHIN Frederick Birmingham 6d 168
MOORE Jane Birmingham 6d 168

It seems odd that they would marry in Birmingham, when both of them were born in Shropshire

hi
could be that they lived in birrmingham at the time george was born in shropshire or Montgomeryshire he married hannah emberton in Montgomeryshire where my grandmother edith grice was born in 1893 then they moved to london also poplar where my dad alfred was born to edith she married benjamin malyon

Montgomeryshire Baptisms Transcription

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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name GRYCE
Birth year 1854
Baptism year 1854
5
Baptism month Feb
Baptism place WELSHPOOL
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name GRYCE
Father's residence Pool Town
Father's occupation Servant
Mother's first name(s) Jane
County Montgomeryshire
Country Wales
Record set Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
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Montgomeryshire Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name GRAIST
Birth year 1821
Baptism year 1821
16
Baptism month Sep
Baptism place MONTGOMERY
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Graist
Father's residence Court Calmore
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Dedication St. Nicholas
County Montgomeryshire
Country Wales
Record set Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Record collection Births & baptisms
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Maureen

hi maureen thank you for your help and all of you who helped

that marriage you put on in Montgomeryshire looks good but it says jane owen fathers name davies i wonder why?

I really don't know,Yvonne but she's going to be VERY difficult to trace back.

Maureen

hi
this is william and jane in 1881 census

Jane Grice
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Jane Grice
Age (Original): 56
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1825
Birthplace: North Ledbury
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Address: 1 Pilgrim Place
Event Place: Castle Church, Staffordshire, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2687 / 45
Page Number: 22
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Grice Head M 57 Wales
Jane Grice Wife F 56 North Ledbury
Jane E Grice Daughter F 17 North Ledbury