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Father Robert in 1861

Robert Reid
AGE: 23
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1838
RELATIONSHIP: Son
FATHER'S NAME: Robert Reid
MOTHER'S NAME: Isabella Reid
GENDER: Male
WHERE BORN: Paisley, Renfrew
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 562
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Eastwood
CIVIL PARISH: Eastwood
TOWN: Pollokshaws
COUNTY: Renfrewshire
ADDRESS: 79 King St
OCCUPATION: Engine Feller
ED: 5
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 102
LINE: 8
ROLL: CSSCT1861_75
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Robert Reid 53
Isabella Reid 50
Robert Reid 23
George Reid 20
William Reid 15
Isabella Reid 13
Elizabeth Reid 11
Hugh Reid 8
John Reid 5
Mary Comrie

So Robert died before the 1871 census?

Isabella G Reed
AGE: 2
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1869
RELATION: Daughter
FATHER'S NAME: Robert Reed
MOTHER'S NAME: Agnes Reed
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Manchester
CIVIL PARISH: Chorlton on Medlock
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Paul
COUNTY/ISLAND: Lancashire
COUNTRY: England
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Chorlton
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 18
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 43
PIECE: 3989
FOLIO: 112
PAGE NUMBER: 7
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Robert Reed 33, b. Scotland
Agnes Reed 28, b. Scotland
Margaret G Reed 6, b. Scotland
Isabella G Reed 2
David Reed

1881

Agnes Reid
AGE: 41
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1840
RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD: Head
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Scotland
CIVIL PARISH: Bromley St Leonard
COUNTY/ISLAND: London
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: 295 Brunswick Rd
MARITAL STATUS: Married
EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Poplar
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Bromley
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 30
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 500
FOLIO: 112
PAGE NUMBER: 34
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Agnes Reid 41
Margaret Reid 16 b. Scotland
Isabella Reid 12 b. Manchester
David Reid 10 b. Manchester
Robert Reid 7 b. Manchester
George Reid 4 b. London

If that is the correct family, it looks like the first Robert is the child that died. He must have died before 1874 when the second Robert was born?

1901

Agnes Reid
AGE: 62
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1839
RELATION TO HEAD: Wife
GENDER: Female
BIRTH PLACE: Scotland
CIVIL PARISH: West Ham
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Peter
COUNTY/ISLAND: Essex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE: WIFE

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: West Ham
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Plaistow
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 05
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 1568
FOLIO: 110
PAGE NUMBER: 18
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 103
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Agnes Reid 62
George Reid 24, b. London
Arthur Reid 19, b. London

Is this you Agnes in 1911 please?

Says 7 children born, 6 living, one has died.

Agnes Reid
AGE IN 1911: 71
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1840
RELATION TO HEAD: Head
GENDER: Female
BIRTH PLACE: Thornliebank, Renfrewshire
CIVIL PARISH: West Ham
COUNTY/ISLAND: Essex
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: 23 Selwyn Road, Plaistow E
MARITAL STATUS: Widowed
OCCUPATION: Private Means
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: West Ham
REGISTRATION DISTRICT NUMBER: 188
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Plaistow
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 4
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 265
PIECE: 9414
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Agnes Reid 71

1851

Agnes Johnston
AGE: 11
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1840
RELATIONSHIP: Daughter
MOTHER: Margaret Johnston
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Thornliebank, Renfrew
PARISH NUMBER: 562
CIVIL PARISH: Eastwood
PHILLIMORE ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH MAPS:
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TOWN: Pollockshaws
COUNTY: Renfrewshire
ADDRESS: 38 King St
OCCUPATION: Scholar
ED: 3
PAGE: 32
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 140
LINE: 19
ROLL: CSSCT1851_117
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Margaret Johnston 42
David Johnston 19
John Johnston 14
Agnes Johnston 11
Susan Johnston 9
Margaret Johnston 7

This looks like mother Agnes in 1841

Agnes Johnston
AGE: 1
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1840
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Renfrewshire, Scotland
CIVIL PARISH: Eastwood
COUNTY: Renfrewshire
ADDRESS: Village Of Thornliebank
PARISH NUMBER: 562
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Robt Johnston 30
Margt Johnston 30
David Johnston 9
John Johnston 4
Agnes Johnston 1
Agnes Galt 24

Just posting this, having stumbled on it. Iterates ton is just over the Clyde from Anderston. As this child has the same middle name as Robert and Agnes's first child, it may help to identify them on earlier census.


Ann Galt Reid
GENDER: Female
BIRTH DATE: 16 Apr 1862
BIRTH PLACE: Tradeston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
FATHER: Matthew Reid
MOTHER: Ann Johnston
FHL FILM NUMBER: 6035516

Margaret Galt Reid
GENDER: Female
BIRTH DATE: 18 Dec 1864
BIRTH PLACE: Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
FATHER: Robert Reid
MOTHER: Agnes Johnston
FHL FILM NUMBER: 6035516

Robert Reid
GENDER: Male
MARRIAGE DATE: 4 Dec 1863
MARRIAGE PLACE: Eastwood,Renfrew,Scotland
SPOUSE: Agnes Johnston
FHL FILM NUMBER: 6035516

I wondered about that one too Shirley but he would be the third child rather than second. The area is close to Anderston so is a possibility.

Jackie, how did you find out how he was their second child please? How did you work back to him please?

If you don't have it, get his birth certificate from Scotlandspeople to find the occupation of his father and the date and place of his parents's marriage. I am not seeing an obvious entry on the 1871 census. (I think the Cadder one is maybe a little too far from Anderston). The details from the parents marriage certificate I.e. Their declared ages, may help us to trace them. It could be that by the time of the 1871 census, one of his parents had died and the other remarried.

Did his mum remarry?

1881 Scotland Census about Robert Reid
Name: Robert Reid
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Stepson
Mother's name: Agnes Lavery
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/14
Registration district: Kinning Park
Civil Parish: Glasgow Kinning Park
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 46 Sussex St.
Occupation: Silver Chaser
ED: 63
Household schedule number: 53
LINE: 16
Roll: cssct1881_252
Household Members:
Name Age
David Lavery 38
Agnes Lavery 40
Elizabeth Reid 19
Mary Reid 17
Robert Reid 15
William Sneddon 10 lodger occ Railway servant

Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Kinning Park; ED: 63; Page: 10; Line: 16; Roll: cssct1881_252.

Who was the first child?

This one ?

1871 census
Name: Robert Reid
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Father's name: Robert Reid
Mother's name: Agnes Reid
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 626A/1
Registration district: Cadder Western District
Civil Parish: Cadder
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Clelland's Land
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 29
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1871_119
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Reid 28
Agnes Reid 25
Robert Reid 6
Jean Reid 4
Agnes Reid 1

Source Citation: Parish: Cadder; ED: 4; Page: 7; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1871_119.

Edit postings overlapped . Probably not this one then as the birth is wrong

that is him rootgatherer

I only found him yesterday have not got far with him

For our reference and to give his place of birth.

Robert Reid
GENDER: Male
BIRTH DATE: 18 Oct 1866
BIRTH PLACE: Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
FATHER: Robert Reid
MOTHER: Agnes Johnston
FHL FILM NUMBER: 6035516

I posted on the accidental duplicate......

Where in Scotland was he born?

Which censuses is he on?

ok thank you